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Before anyone jumps in to accuse me of being a feminist as many have done before just hear me out.Previously I was one of the anti reservation brigade, the present SC/ST reservation scenario is not actually appealing. The creamy layer and the already haves are taking full advantage while the have-nots are still in the miserable, pitiable conditions with no succour in sight.
I was and am of the feeling that women are multifaceted human beings, they are intelligent just look at the results which come out each year every time it is the girls who are the top scorers.They are able to manage in every field given proper chance.Of course there are exceptions are there not everywhere?
So, I was of the opinion that when we are able to do everything why we need reservation. We have got the necessary talent to move forward without using the crutches of Womens’ reservation.
That was before I started teaching the children of the lesser privileged section.There I realised that even though the daughters of the maids,and others like them are intelligent, in fact I founf that all girls were doing well in their studies while the boys despite having the privileges like studying in English medium,having all the books, best stationery they could afford were lagging behind.
The worst part being that even the most intelligent girl was supposed to help her mother in her work and also look after the house in her absence.The boys were pushed to go to school reluctantly while the girls were pulled back.Their accomplishments were always ignored or downplayed.
When these girls will grow up they actually need reservation for their betterment,to imrove their lot.Than no policemen will be calling any woman to their police station and gangraping her.
If women reservation means improving the lot of such women I for one is all for it. Just bring it on as early as possible
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We have got the necessary talent but male dominance in the politics will not come to an end so easily. It is very urgent to promote the women participation in politics. Women's reservation bill is a right step in this direction.
(Local Perspectives)
http://rohandharesh.instablogs.com/entry/proposed-womens-reservation-in-parliament-is-unconstitutional/
Proposed Women’s Reservation In Parliament Is Unconstitutional!
The Background: The Indian constitution was enacted on 26th of November, 1949. It is the supreme law of the land. It lays down the framework defining fundamental political principles, establishing the structure, procedures, powers and duties, of the government and spells out the fundamental rights, directive principles and duties of citizens. The constitution came into effect on January 26, 1950 and it guarantees among other things, equality before law and equality of opportunities through article 14 and 15, respectively.
The Constitution provides for a Parliamentary form of government which is federal in structure with certain unitary features. The constitutional head of the Executive of the Union is the President. As per Article 79 of the Constitution of India, the council of the Parliament of the Union consists of the President and two Houses to be known as the Council of States (Rajya Sabha) and the House of the People (Lok Sabha). Article 74(1) of the Constitution provides that there shall be a Council of Ministers with a Prime Minister as its head to aid and advise the President, who shall exercise his functions in accordance to the advice. The real executive power is thus vested in the Council of Ministers with the Prime Minister as its head.
The Council of Ministers is collectively responsible to the House of the People (Lok Sabha). Every State has a Legislative Assembly. Certain States have an upper House called State Legislative Council. Governor is the Head of a State. There shall be a Governor for each State and the executive power of the State shall be vested in him. The council of Ministers with the Chief Minister as its head advises the Governor in the discharge of the executive functions. The Council of the Ministers of a state is collectively responsible to the Legislative Assembly of the State.
Reservation for women: A demand was made by women’s groups for 33.3% reservation for women on the ground that their representation was low in parliament and state assemblies. The bill to reserve 33.3% of seats for women in legislative bodies was first drafted by the H D Deve Gowda-led United Front government. The Bill was introduced in the Lok Sabha [Lower house of Indian parliament]on September 12, 1996. Though it has been introduced in Parliament several times since then, the Bill could not be passed because of lack of political consensus.
What does the Bill provide?
Reservation for women at each level of legislative decision-making, starting with the Lok Sabha, down to state and local legislatures. If the Bill is passed, one-third of the total available seats would be reserved for women in national, state, or local governments. In continuation of the existing provisions already mandating reservations for scheduled caste and scheduled tribes, one-third of such SC and ST candidates must be women.
Failure of the 4th estate:
It is very sad and unfortunate that the Indian media has been taking the side and promoting the concept of reservation for women without ever, for once, showing the negative side of such a concept. By presenting news in such a way as though there were no negatives and that people have already accepted it, it has not been doing justice to the noble profession of journalism. In effect, the media has becoming a platform for one-sided, biased propaganda of certain vested interests and women’s lobbies without taking into consideration the rights and views of men and women who don’t support reservation and this discriminatory concept of “Robbing Peter To Pay Paul”. This bill is short-sighted, unconstitutional, undemocratic, and discriminatory. The following points are worth considering:
1. This Bill takes away the democratic right of 33% of the electorate (22 crore people) to elect their representatives. It restricts the choice of both men and women in those constituencies. The state has no right to limit the pool of representatives available to the public to choose from. This is against all democratic principles of free choice.
2. This takes away the democratic right of about 11 crore men to contest in elections, thus imparting a severe blow to the health of democracy in India . This is against the fundamental rights of 11 Crore men. It violates the right to equality guaranteed in the constitution.
3. It will lead to significant upheavals and instability in Indian polity, with MPs being forced to shuffle constituencies in almost every election. This would lead to an inability to nurture their constituency and further reduce accountability.
4. There are no measures to make sure that the benefits are received by the socially backward and underprivileged women, who really need them. There are no objective criteria to prevent the elite class or “creamy layer” of women from taking undue and unfair advantage of this legislation.
5. This Bill sacrifices merit and experience of seasoned law makers and will further divide the country on gender lines.
6. This bill suggests a rotation system which would be determined by draw of lots, in such a manner that a seat would be reserved only once in a block of three general elections. This is a serious flaw, insofar as it mechanically provides for entry of women members to fill one-third of vacancies in Lok Sabha and Vidhan Sabhas. This subverts the democratic process which is all about free choice vis-à-vis a mechanical action/ process.
7. The representation system in parliament and state legislatures is for entire constituencies which include every single person, be they man, woman or child and not just one section of the population within a constituency. In other words, an MP or an MLA is a public servant who represents a constituency and not any group/ section/ portion of his/ her constituency. He/ she is supposed to protect the interests of all in his/ her constituency and not just a particular group/ section/ portion in his or her constituency. This bill is against this concept of representation. The bill implies representation of women.
8. India is a vast country and is multi-cultural, multi-ethic, multi-lingual and with several groups, castes, sub-castes etc. The implementation of this bill would lead to more demands from various groups and sections of society for similar representation and it would be an open invitation for politicization of the representative form of Indian democracy. It will be a death blow to representation through constituencies.
9. The concept of reservation is an insult to women and their capability. This law perpetuates gender discrimination.
Rather than taking a judicious and considered approach towards the issue, which normally expected during the legislative process, the current Bill builds on gender stereotypes and makes several deeply flawed assumptions such as:
1. Women only vote for other women – More than 50% of the women exercised their franchise in the General Election of 2004 and elected their representatives, both men and women.
2. Forcing more women on the electorate is women empowerment – Forcing more women in the parliament through undemocratic means will only serve to undermine the legitimacy and efficacy of the elected women representatives.
3. All women are under-privileged - A gross generalization is made that all women are under-privileged, deprived and discriminated. That women are a homogenous group and there are no differences in terms of social status, education, etc. and hence, an across the board reservation system is needed.
4. All men are privileged - Similarly, a gross generalization is made that men are a homogenous group and are all privileged and have a natural advantage over women.
5. Women are advantaged - Assumption is made that women have no natural advantages over men. That society discriminates only women and not men. It does not recognize the natural and societal advantages that women have got in terms of moral superiority, greater faith and sympathy.
6. Reservation is indispensable - The bill does not recognize the fact that there have been many women who made it to high public offices and there have been many women Chief Ministers and a Prime Minister. Right now, we have a woman President. They all assumed office through their own efforts and without any reservation. The bill is based on the false assumption that women need reservation to enter high public offices.
The Conclusion:
It is very essential that facts are published in an unbiased manner and alternative views are considered by the media and the society. As the saying goes, “Robbing Peter to pay Paul”, is no solution - short term or long term for any perceived problem. Affirmative action creates a new set of problems than solving the existing problem.
Proposed Women’s Reservation In Parliament Is Unconstitutional!
The Background: The Indian constitution was enacted on 26th of November, 1949. It is the supreme law of the land. It lays down the framework defining fundamental political principles, establishing the structure, procedures, powers and duties, of the government and spells out the fundamental rights, directive principles and duties of citizens. The constitution came into effect on January 26, 1950 and it guarantees among other things, equality before law and equality of opportunities through article 14 and 15, respectively.
The Constitution provides for a Parliamentary form of government which is federal in structure with certain unitary features. The constitutional head of the Executive of the Union is the President. As per Article 79 of the Constitution of India, the council of the Parliament of the Union consists of the President and two Houses to be known as the Council of States (Rajya Sabha) and the House of the People (Lok Sabha). Article 74(1) of the Constitution provides that there shall be a Council of Ministers with a Prime Minister as its head to aid and advise the President, who shall exercise his functions in accordance to the advice. The real executive power is thus vested in the Council of Ministers with the Prime Minister as its head.
The Council of Ministers is collectively responsible to the House of the People (Lok Sabha). Every State has a Legislative Assembly. Certain States have an upper House called State Legislative Council. Governor is the Head of a State. There shall be a Governor for each State and the executive power of the State shall be vested in him. The council of Ministers with the Chief Minister as its head advises the Governor in the discharge of the executive functions. The Council of the Ministers of a state is collectively responsible to the Legislative Assembly of the State.
Reservation for women: A demand was made by women’s groups for 33.3% reservation for women on the ground that their representation was low in parliament and state assemblies. The bill to reserve 33.3% of seats for women in legislative bodies was first drafted by the H D Deve Gowda-led United Front government. The Bill was introduced in the Lok Sabha [Lower house of Indian parliament]on September 12, 1996. Though it has been introduced in Parliament several times since then, the Bill could not be passed because of lack of political consensus.
What does the Bill provide?
Reservation for women at each level of legislative decision-making, starting with the Lok Sabha, down to state and local legislatures. If the Bill is passed, one-third of the total available seats would be reserved for women in national, state, or local governments. In continuation of the existing provisions already mandating reservations for scheduled caste and scheduled tribes, one-third of such SC and ST candidates must be women.
Failure of the 4th estate:
It is very sad and unfortunate that the Indian media has been taking the side and promoting the concept of reservation for women without ever, for once, showing the negative side of such a concept. By presenting news in such a way as though there were no negatives and that people have already accepted it, it has not been doing justice to the noble profession of journalism. In effect, the media has becoming a platform for one-sided, biased propaganda of certain vested interests and women’s lobbies without taking into consideration the rights and views of men and women who don’t support reservation and this discriminatory concept of “Robbing Peter To Pay Paul”. This bill is short-sighted, unconstitutional, undemocratic, and discriminatory. The following points are worth considering:
1. This Bill takes away the democratic right of 33% of the electorate (22 crore people) to elect their representatives. It restricts the choice of both men and women in those constituencies. The state has no right to limit the pool of representatives available to the public to choose from. This is against all democratic principles of free choice.
2. This takes away the democratic right of about 11 crore men to contest in elections, thus imparting a severe blow to the health of democracy in India . This is against the fundamental rights of 11 Crore men. It violates the right to equality guaranteed in the constitution.
3. It will lead to significant upheavals and instability in Indian polity, with MPs being forced to shuffle constituencies in almost every election. This would lead to an inability to nurture their constituency and further reduce accountability.
4. There are no measures to make sure that the benefits are received by the socially backward and underprivileged women, who really need them. There are no objective criteria to prevent the elite class or “creamy layer” of women from taking undue and unfair advantage of this legislation.
5. This Bill sacrifices merit and experience of seasoned law makers and will further divide the country on gender lines.
6. This bill suggests a rotation system which would be determined by draw of lots, in such a manner that a seat would be reserved only once in a block of three general elections. This is a serious flaw, insofar as it mechanically provides for entry of women members to fill one-third of vacancies in Lok Sabha and Vidhan Sabhas. This subverts the democratic process which is all about free choice vis-à-vis a mechanical action/ process.
7. The representation system in parliament and state legislatures is for entire constituencies which include every single person, be they man, woman or child and not just one section of the population within a constituency. In other words, an MP or an MLA is a public servant who represents a constituency and not any group/ section/ portion of his/ her constituency. He/ she is supposed to protect the interests of all in his/ her constituency and not just a particular group/ section/ portion in his or her constituency. This bill is against this concept of representation. The bill implies representation of women.
8. India is a vast country and is multi-cultural, multi-ethic, multi-lingual and with several groups, castes, sub-castes etc. The implementation of this bill would lead to more demands from various groups and sections of society for similar representation and it would be an open invitation for politicization of the representative form of Indian democracy. It will be a death blow to representation through constituencies.
9. The concept of reservation is an insult to women and their capability. This law perpetuates gender discrimination.
Rather than taking a judicious and considered approach towards the issue, which normally expected during the legislative process, the current Bill builds on gender stereotypes and makes several deeply flawed assumptions such as:
1. Women only vote for other women – More than 50% of the women exercised their franchise in the General Election of 2004 and elected their representatives, both men and women.
2. Forcing more women on the electorate is women empowerment – Forcing more women in the parliament through undemocratic means will only serve to undermine the legitimacy and efficacy of the elected women representatives.
3. All women are under-privileged - A gross generalization is made that all women are under-privileged, deprived and discriminated. That women are a homogenous group and there are no differences in terms of social status, education, etc. and hence, an across the board reservation system is needed.
4. All men are privileged - Similarly, a gross generalization is made that men are a homogenous group and are all privileged and have a natural advantage over women.
5. Women are advantaged - Assumption is made that women have no natural advantages over men. That society discriminates only women and not men. It does not recognize the natural and societal advantages that women have got in terms of moral superiority, greater faith and sympathy.
6. Reservation is indispensable - The bill does not recognize the fact that there have been many women who made it to high public offices and there have been many women Chief Ministers and a Prime Minister. Right now, we have a woman President. They all assumed office through their own efforts and without any reservation. The bill is based on the false assumption that women need reservation to enter high public offices.
The Conclusion:
It is very essential that facts are published in an unbiased manner and alternative views are considered by the media and the society. As the saying goes, “Robbing Peter to pay Paul”, is no solution - short term or long term for any perceived problem. Affirmative action creates a new set of problems than solving the existing problem.
(Local Perspectives)
Men Are Oppressed Too!
http://rohandharesh.instablogs.com/entry/men-are-oppressed-too/
The oppression of men is an extremely complex phenomenon to understand. It has always been hidden, disguised, indirect, Innumerous, severe, carefully conspired and going on for thousands of years. Above all, it’s carefully and forcibly unacknowledged.
Today, it would be seen as ’startling’ and ‘unbelievable’ at the best and outright ‘ridiculous’ and ’scandalous’ at the worst to talk about man’s oppression. It’s not easy to see even the misery and pain of men, even when it is extreme.
It is so well hidden not only from the world but from the man himself. It’s just not acknowledged. No place for it in the society. No value for a man’s tears. Tears are ‘feminine’. The mechanisms of man’s oppression are just as invisible as his tears.
Once you are sensitized and you learn to look beyond what is ‘obvious’ and you slowly start witnessing it all. The first things that point to the size and nature of these invisible mechanisms are the extraordinary and intense pressures that the society (or rather a section of it) exerts to sustain or strengthen the mechanisms.
The masculinity with which boys are born, is natural masculinity. This is given by nature. However, society has created a mechanism whereby it does not acknowledge this natural masculinity. It has instead created its own version, which we shall call ’social masculinity’.
Social masculinity is not naturally endowed, but has to be granted by society. Society does not accept a person as a ‘man’ unless he fulfills certain preconditions of roles or expectations of society, referred to as ‘male gender and sexual roles’, or ’social masculinity roles.
A person is not considered a man without social manhood. This social mechanism is designed to control male behavior, especially male sexual behavior. The result is silent severe oppression of men.
Some of the “Social Masculinity” Roles are:
1. Men don’t have any emotions. They should suppress their emotions and problems.
2. They are rough and tough and should NOT complain about women.
3. Men are expected to be physically tall, strong, and brave.
4. They are supposed to protect and provide women.
5. They are supposed to make sacrifices, even sacrificing their lives, to protect and provide women.
6. They are not supposed to have weaknesses or vulnerabilities. They must not show feelings as these would make them appear weak or vulnerable.
7. They should always be willing to fight their way and defend their families. They should not return from a fight.
8. They should not have any feelings.
The result is that men are far more prone to heart attacks and stroke. Their life expectancy is some 5-6 years less than women, worldwide. Similarly, the social construct of manhood makes them NOT to complain about women, even if their women are causing them grievous hurt!
Women’s education is subsidized and a lot of support systems exist for them to open shop. While men are paying 82% of taxes in India and are denied any kind of support systems. Yet, it is men who are supposed to provide for women. Every year, 3 times more men commit suicide than women and yet there are no support systems or even laws to protect men.
All this is happening in a society that claims to have dumped the earlier traditional roles and concepts of gender and has women working in all fields and having more constitutional rights than men!
It is high time that men are liberated from their traditional roles and their masculinity is redefined based in natural masculinity and NOT with the kind of contradictions stated above. Men have always been considered as disposable and have been taken for granted.
It is high time men understand that are NOT privileged and have been suppressed too!
http://rohandharesh.instablogs.com/entry/men-are-oppressed-too/
The oppression of men is an extremely complex phenomenon to understand. It has always been hidden, disguised, indirect, Innumerous, severe, carefully conspired and going on for thousands of years. Above all, it’s carefully and forcibly unacknowledged.
Today, it would be seen as ’startling’ and ‘unbelievable’ at the best and outright ‘ridiculous’ and ’scandalous’ at the worst to talk about man’s oppression. It’s not easy to see even the misery and pain of men, even when it is extreme.
It is so well hidden not only from the world but from the man himself. It’s just not acknowledged. No place for it in the society. No value for a man’s tears. Tears are ‘feminine’. The mechanisms of man’s oppression are just as invisible as his tears.
Once you are sensitized and you learn to look beyond what is ‘obvious’ and you slowly start witnessing it all. The first things that point to the size and nature of these invisible mechanisms are the extraordinary and intense pressures that the society (or rather a section of it) exerts to sustain or strengthen the mechanisms.
The masculinity with which boys are born, is natural masculinity. This is given by nature. However, society has created a mechanism whereby it does not acknowledge this natural masculinity. It has instead created its own version, which we shall call ’social masculinity’.
Social masculinity is not naturally endowed, but has to be granted by society. Society does not accept a person as a ‘man’ unless he fulfills certain preconditions of roles or expectations of society, referred to as ‘male gender and sexual roles’, or ’social masculinity roles.
A person is not considered a man without social manhood. This social mechanism is designed to control male behavior, especially male sexual behavior. The result is silent severe oppression of men.
Some of the “Social Masculinity” Roles are:
1. Men don’t have any emotions. They should suppress their emotions and problems.
2. They are rough and tough and should NOT complain about women.
3. Men are expected to be physically tall, strong, and brave.
4. They are supposed to protect and provide women.
5. They are supposed to make sacrifices, even sacrificing their lives, to protect and provide women.
6. They are not supposed to have weaknesses or vulnerabilities. They must not show feelings as these would make them appear weak or vulnerable.
7. They should always be willing to fight their way and defend their families. They should not return from a fight.
8. They should not have any feelings.
The result is that men are far more prone to heart attacks and stroke. Their life expectancy is some 5-6 years less than women, worldwide. Similarly, the social construct of manhood makes them NOT to complain about women, even if their women are causing them grievous hurt!
Women’s education is subsidized and a lot of support systems exist for them to open shop. While men are paying 82% of taxes in India and are denied any kind of support systems. Yet, it is men who are supposed to provide for women. Every year, 3 times more men commit suicide than women and yet there are no support systems or even laws to protect men.
All this is happening in a society that claims to have dumped the earlier traditional roles and concepts of gender and has women working in all fields and having more constitutional rights than men!
It is high time that men are liberated from their traditional roles and their masculinity is redefined based in natural masculinity and NOT with the kind of contradictions stated above. Men have always been considered as disposable and have been taken for granted.
It is high time men understand that are NOT privileged and have been suppressed too!
(Local Perspectives)
If marriage is so horrible, why don’t you just advocate for men never to get married?
Problem solved, no more suicide, no more heart attacks, no more torture from women, no more responsibilities...since apparently, from what you say, men can’t handle any responsibility without keeling over dead.
Problem solved, no more suicide, no more heart attacks, no more torture from women, no more responsibilities...since apparently, from what you say, men can’t handle any responsibility without keeling over dead.
(Global Perspectives)
Proposed Women’s Reservation In Parliament Is Unconstitutional!
Then change the constitution...
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
Yes, we now need to ban marriages because marriage as an institution is ANTI-MALE. Men would any day like to be free from bondage of one person in a relationship called marriage. Women want to dominate men. Its the ultimate desire of every woman. Equality is a joke!
Yes, we now need to ban marriages because marriage as an institution is ANTI-MALE. Men would any day like to be free from bondage of one person in a relationship called marriage. Women want to dominate men. Its the ultimate desire of every woman. Equality is a joke!
(Local Perspectives)
@Neha,
”Then change the constitution... ”—————-
yeah you women deserve nothing less than the Taliban. The freedom and more than equality that this constitution offers is not enough for your limitless greed! You have now introduced femininazism as a part of the laws and society. You simply deserve the Taliban. Not surprising how and why Manusmriti came about. I was once a disbeliever of that. Now, with feminaizis around, I do believe it. WOMEN WILL GO BACK!
”Then change the constitution... ”—————-
yeah you women deserve nothing less than the Taliban. The freedom and more than equality that this constitution offers is not enough for your limitless greed! You have now introduced femininazism as a part of the laws and society. You simply deserve the Taliban. Not surprising how and why Manusmriti came about. I was once a disbeliever of that. Now, with feminaizis around, I do believe it. WOMEN WILL GO BACK!
(Local Perspectives)
@Neha,
”Only in you dreams poor Rohan, You cry baby!”————–
The years of discrimination that women faced was not a wild dream but a reality. A reality that occured because of the stupidity of the women prior to those generation. Yes, there were many feminazis like you in earlier times too who paved the way for discrimination of women. Nobody speaks about why women were discriminated. Everybody wants to blame the men for that. But your feminism is a proof for us to see and visualise what could have happened. LOL Shame on feminists who don’t care about future generation women!
”Only in you dreams poor Rohan, You cry baby!”————–
The years of discrimination that women faced was not a wild dream but a reality. A reality that occured because of the stupidity of the women prior to those generation. Yes, there were many feminazis like you in earlier times too who paved the way for discrimination of women. Nobody speaks about why women were discriminated. Everybody wants to blame the men for that. But your feminism is a proof for us to see and visualise what could have happened. LOL Shame on feminists who don’t care about future generation women!
(Local Perspectives)
”The years of discrimination that women faced was not a wild dream but a reality. A reality that occured because of the stupidity of the women prior to those generation.”
Yes, Rohan blames women for every evil visited on humanity. as we can see he believes that women deserve every horror visited upon then for their sheer stupidity. (sounds like a very religious man to me.)
The reality is that women have always been subjugated by men simply for the fact that men are larger and stronger and ruled women with their fists, everyone knows that.
Yes, Rohan blames women for every evil visited on humanity. as we can see he believes that women deserve every horror visited upon then for their sheer stupidity. (sounds like a very religious man to me.)
The reality is that women have always been subjugated by men simply for the fact that men are larger and stronger and ruled women with their fists, everyone knows that.
(Global Perspectives)
Let me say one thing very clearly that women in politics are as corrupt as their male counterparts are.
(Local Perspectives)
Women MPs, MLAs too have criminal records
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090414/818/tnl-women-mps-mlas-too-have-criminal-rec.html
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090414/818/tnl-women-mps-mlas-too-have-criminal-rec.html
(Local Perspectives)
Veena: Why Not? is answered here
http://prassoon.instablogs.com/entry/women-reservation-bill-against-the-constitution/
http://prassoon.instablogs.com/entry/women-reservation-bill-against-the-constitution/
(Global Perspectives)
Let me see ,male politicians and dictators have screwed the world up to what we see today
However woman get into politics or offices of importance it will help water down male testosterone that punches first and only talks when he feels pain ,where woman’s first instinct is to hugh and verbally solve problems ,but maybe squeeze a little hard
However woman get into politics or offices of importance it will help water down male testosterone that punches first and only talks when he feels pain ,where woman’s first instinct is to hugh and verbally solve problems ,but maybe squeeze a little hard
(Global Perspectives)
Wayne, is that you? Softy? I can’t believe this.
(Global Perspectives)
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090414/818/tnl-women-mps-mlas-too-have-criminal-rec.html
Women MPs, MLAs too have criminal records:—
New Delhi, April 14 (IANS) Guess what? Kerala, Bihar and Chhattisgarh are the states with the highest percentage of women legislators with criminal records while Assam, Jharkhand and Rajasthan are some of the cleanest, says a study.
On the whole, about 13 percent of women legislators in states and 14 percent of women MPs in the 14th Lok Sabha had criminal records, says the study by PRS Legislative Research based on affidavits filed by candidates with the Election Commission up to 2007.
The study by the independent research initiative suggests that women leaders don’t lag behind when it comes to having criminal records or amassing wealth.
A total of 51 women are in the 545-member Lok Sabha while 280 are women among 4,120 legislators across all state assemblies.
The survey shows that 83 percent women legislators have criminal records in Kerala, while the figure is 25 percent for Bihar and Chhattisgarh.
The other states that have women MLAs with criminal records are Madhya Pradesh (22 percent), Karnataka (20 percent), Tamil Nadu (19 percent), Haryana and Orissa (18 percent), Maharashtra and Punjab (17 percent), Uttar Pradesh (13 percent), Andhra Pradesh (eight percent) and West Bengal (six percent).
However, in 11 states, women legislators do not have any kind of criminal record. The states are Assam, Delhi, Goa, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh, Jharkhand, Meghalaya, Rajasthan, Sikkim, Tripura and Uttarakhand.
The survey names seven women MPs with criminal charges, and topping the list is Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) chief Mayawati who has in the past been booked for cheating, forgery and criminal conspiracy. She is no longer an MP as she is now Uttar Pradesh chief minister.
There are two from Kerala — the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M) P. Satheedevi and C.S. Sujatha — booked for unlawful assembly and rioting. Also in the list of women MPs ’with criminal charges’ based on affidavits filed in 2004 is Suryakanta Patil from the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP), accused of misusing a charitable institution.
Two Shiv Sena MPs are there too, Narhire Kalpana Ramesh for wrongful restraint and Bhavana Pundlikrao under the Bombay Police Act.
Women and Child Development Minister Renuka Chowdhury appears in the list for obstructing a public servant in discharging his duties.
Anil Bairwal, national coordinator of the Association for Democratic Reforms and National Election Watch, said he is not surprised by the findings.
’It is easy to see that such women are either the wife or a relative of an influential politician. How did they come on top in politics - by depending on men. In such a situation, it is not surprising to find them involved in corruption or criminal cases,’ said Bairwal, whose organisations work for improving governance and strengthening democracy.
He said a very small number of women are selected by political parties to fight in elections. ’There is no democratic method involved in selecting them. If more women are selected, I am sure they will focus on issues that would make a difference,’ Bairwal told IANS.
The survey also states that many women legislators are richer than their male counterparts. Over 30 percent of women MPs have assets worth more than Rs.1.5 crore. The figure is 14.3 percent for members of legislative assemblies (MLAs).
Similarly, 26 percent of women MPs have assets between Rs.50 lakh and Rs.1.5 crore while the figure is 21 percent for MLAs.
In Himachal Pradesh, most women MLAs’ assets have been put at more than Rs.1.5 crore. ’Three of the five women MLAs in Himachal Pradesh have household assets worth more than Rs.1.5 crore.’
Women MPs, MLAs too have criminal records:—
New Delhi, April 14 (IANS) Guess what? Kerala, Bihar and Chhattisgarh are the states with the highest percentage of women legislators with criminal records while Assam, Jharkhand and Rajasthan are some of the cleanest, says a study.
On the whole, about 13 percent of women legislators in states and 14 percent of women MPs in the 14th Lok Sabha had criminal records, says the study by PRS Legislative Research based on affidavits filed by candidates with the Election Commission up to 2007.
The study by the independent research initiative suggests that women leaders don’t lag behind when it comes to having criminal records or amassing wealth.
A total of 51 women are in the 545-member Lok Sabha while 280 are women among 4,120 legislators across all state assemblies.
The survey shows that 83 percent women legislators have criminal records in Kerala, while the figure is 25 percent for Bihar and Chhattisgarh.
The other states that have women MLAs with criminal records are Madhya Pradesh (22 percent), Karnataka (20 percent), Tamil Nadu (19 percent), Haryana and Orissa (18 percent), Maharashtra and Punjab (17 percent), Uttar Pradesh (13 percent), Andhra Pradesh (eight percent) and West Bengal (six percent).
However, in 11 states, women legislators do not have any kind of criminal record. The states are Assam, Delhi, Goa, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh, Jharkhand, Meghalaya, Rajasthan, Sikkim, Tripura and Uttarakhand.
The survey names seven women MPs with criminal charges, and topping the list is Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) chief Mayawati who has in the past been booked for cheating, forgery and criminal conspiracy. She is no longer an MP as she is now Uttar Pradesh chief minister.
There are two from Kerala — the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M) P. Satheedevi and C.S. Sujatha — booked for unlawful assembly and rioting. Also in the list of women MPs ’with criminal charges’ based on affidavits filed in 2004 is Suryakanta Patil from the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP), accused of misusing a charitable institution.
Two Shiv Sena MPs are there too, Narhire Kalpana Ramesh for wrongful restraint and Bhavana Pundlikrao under the Bombay Police Act.
Women and Child Development Minister Renuka Chowdhury appears in the list for obstructing a public servant in discharging his duties.
Anil Bairwal, national coordinator of the Association for Democratic Reforms and National Election Watch, said he is not surprised by the findings.
’It is easy to see that such women are either the wife or a relative of an influential politician. How did they come on top in politics - by depending on men. In such a situation, it is not surprising to find them involved in corruption or criminal cases,’ said Bairwal, whose organisations work for improving governance and strengthening democracy.
He said a very small number of women are selected by political parties to fight in elections. ’There is no democratic method involved in selecting them. If more women are selected, I am sure they will focus on issues that would make a difference,’ Bairwal told IANS.
The survey also states that many women legislators are richer than their male counterparts. Over 30 percent of women MPs have assets worth more than Rs.1.5 crore. The figure is 14.3 percent for members of legislative assemblies (MLAs).
Similarly, 26 percent of women MPs have assets between Rs.50 lakh and Rs.1.5 crore while the figure is 21 percent for MLAs.
In Himachal Pradesh, most women MLAs’ assets have been put at more than Rs.1.5 crore. ’Three of the five women MLAs in Himachal Pradesh have household assets worth more than Rs.1.5 crore.’
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@Veena,
Your maid servant will never contest an election. People of your strata are demanding reservation for women in the name of such deprived women so that you can enter parliament yourself. Secondly, deprivation is not a female forte. Men are as much oppressed as women!!! Lastly, if women, according to you, fare better than men in every field, you cannot demand any kind of reservation. It is a contradiction and you women are taking the advantages of tradition and modernity. You want men to protect you and provide you. Yet you want women to get equality. Isn’t this rubbish??? STOP PLAYING A FOOL. WE MEN WILL FIGHT YOU NOW. OFCOURSE THERE ARE ALWAYS MALE SLAVES LIKE WAYNE LOGIC TO SUPPORT YOU BUT WE WILL WIN THE BATTLE. YOU DON’T WANT EQUALITY. YOU WANT FEMALE DOMINATION!!
Your maid servant will never contest an election. People of your strata are demanding reservation for women in the name of such deprived women so that you can enter parliament yourself. Secondly, deprivation is not a female forte. Men are as much oppressed as women!!! Lastly, if women, according to you, fare better than men in every field, you cannot demand any kind of reservation. It is a contradiction and you women are taking the advantages of tradition and modernity. You want men to protect you and provide you. Yet you want women to get equality. Isn’t this rubbish??? STOP PLAYING A FOOL. WE MEN WILL FIGHT YOU NOW. OFCOURSE THERE ARE ALWAYS MALE SLAVES LIKE WAYNE LOGIC TO SUPPORT YOU BUT WE WILL WIN THE BATTLE. YOU DON’T WANT EQUALITY. YOU WANT FEMALE DOMINATION!!
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Hi, Rohan, Welcome abroad.
Well first things first,I do not have a maid servant,can’t afford one,so obviously you won’t have the satisfaction of saying ”I told you so” when my non existent maid will not fight an election.
When did I ever mention that I endrose reservation.In fact what I have said is that there should be no reservation because of the present status and furthermore it had made my life hell when I was working.Imagine despite having all the necessary qualification we of general category were always sidelined and had to suffer our juniors becoming our bosses who could not do a single work properly and to be told quite balantly that we would have to complete the leftover work properly.Pretty demeaning.
Who wants reservation for the elite,in fact it should be done away for other reservation also.The tragedy is the people who are really in need almost never get it.
But I have seen people who really deserve and it would really make a big difference in their lives.If they get it I for one is all for women reservation if not the bill should be scrapped at this level itself.No loss to anyone.
Well first things first,I do not have a maid servant,can’t afford one,so obviously you won’t have the satisfaction of saying ”I told you so” when my non existent maid will not fight an election.
When did I ever mention that I endrose reservation.In fact what I have said is that there should be no reservation because of the present status and furthermore it had made my life hell when I was working.Imagine despite having all the necessary qualification we of general category were always sidelined and had to suffer our juniors becoming our bosses who could not do a single work properly and to be told quite balantly that we would have to complete the leftover work properly.Pretty demeaning.
Who wants reservation for the elite,in fact it should be done away for other reservation also.The tragedy is the people who are really in need almost never get it.
But I have seen people who really deserve and it would really make a big difference in their lives.If they get it I for one is all for women reservation if not the bill should be scrapped at this level itself.No loss to anyone.
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veena: ”When did I ever mention that I endrose reservation.”
Then what is this blog about LOL. Are you smoking pot?
Then what is this blog about LOL. Are you smoking pot?
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@Veena,
I am not referring to your particular case. The educated women in India want it both ways - equality and special treatment. They keep going back and forth between tradition and modernity as and when it suits them. Yes, I agree with you reservation in any form is bad. Hopelessly so. But the reason why those who deserve it never get it is because the people who demand it are always people who never deserve it and they make full use of it. Elite women in parliament are making the biggest noise apart from feminist groups for women’s reservation in the name of poor women in rural areas. None of these poor women would ever stand for elections. Ultimately, these feminist women would do so in their name. Those women would continue to suffer while these women would make hay! The manufacturers of anti-virus software are the biggest manufacturers of virus themselves. Similarly, the women’s rights advocates are the biggest perpetrators of violation of women’s rights as their income is dependent on the sufferings of women. Lastly, please remember that there are deprived men too. Why not reservation for them? [If you support reservation for genuinely deprived women]
I am not referring to your particular case. The educated women in India want it both ways - equality and special treatment. They keep going back and forth between tradition and modernity as and when it suits them. Yes, I agree with you reservation in any form is bad. Hopelessly so. But the reason why those who deserve it never get it is because the people who demand it are always people who never deserve it and they make full use of it. Elite women in parliament are making the biggest noise apart from feminist groups for women’s reservation in the name of poor women in rural areas. None of these poor women would ever stand for elections. Ultimately, these feminist women would do so in their name. Those women would continue to suffer while these women would make hay! The manufacturers of anti-virus software are the biggest manufacturers of virus themselves. Similarly, the women’s rights advocates are the biggest perpetrators of violation of women’s rights as their income is dependent on the sufferings of women. Lastly, please remember that there are deprived men too. Why not reservation for them? [If you support reservation for genuinely deprived women]
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The majority always cries foul when any minority anywhere gets a break. There is just something so satisfying about keeping a minority crushed under you boot...isn’t there Rohan?
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@Nuya,
The western forces are pushed for the concept and obsession for Minorityism. Indians are obsessed with it. So is the west. It is always assumed that minorities are crushed under the boots. Nobody understands the fact that minorities are very often given special privileges at the cost of the majority. By the way, women are not the minority. They are 50% of the population. IT IS A SHAME THAT FEMINISTS LIKE YOU WHO CRY EQUALITY WANT SPECIAL TREATMENT AND RESERVATIONS. HAVE SOME SHAME! This is a classic example of how feminists want the advantages of tradition and modernity.
The western forces are pushed for the concept and obsession for Minorityism. Indians are obsessed with it. So is the west. It is always assumed that minorities are crushed under the boots. Nobody understands the fact that minorities are very often given special privileges at the cost of the majority. By the way, women are not the minority. They are 50% of the population. IT IS A SHAME THAT FEMINISTS LIKE YOU WHO CRY EQUALITY WANT SPECIAL TREATMENT AND RESERVATIONS. HAVE SOME SHAME! This is a classic example of how feminists want the advantages of tradition and modernity.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, Women ARE a minority, there are 100 million Less women than men in the world. Your country alone makes up most of that shortage, almost 40 million. http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/indwm/tab1a.htm
Talking of the causes leading to the dismal sex ratio in Punjab, Singh said, ‘‘Strong son preference is leading to sex selective abortions and higher female mortality. Neglect of girl child is leading to higher infant mortality and the risks associated with frequent child bearing compounds the risk of higher maternal mortality. The reasons, too, are very easy to see. People believe that sons are more likely to help the family on the farm or in the family business, earn wages and support parents. ‘’
http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=36963
females are literally fighting for their very existence there.
Look up the bride shortage in India.
You whine about a few thousand suicides by married men when MILLIONS of females are disposed of regularly.
Unless more women are educated by reservations or whatever, the decline in females will continue.
Talking of the causes leading to the dismal sex ratio in Punjab, Singh said, ‘‘Strong son preference is leading to sex selective abortions and higher female mortality. Neglect of girl child is leading to higher infant mortality and the risks associated with frequent child bearing compounds the risk of higher maternal mortality. The reasons, too, are very easy to see. People believe that sons are more likely to help the family on the farm or in the family business, earn wages and support parents. ‘’
http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=36963
females are literally fighting for their very existence there.
Look up the bride shortage in India.
You whine about a few thousand suicides by married men when MILLIONS of females are disposed of regularly.
Unless more women are educated by reservations or whatever, the decline in females will continue.
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Millions of females getting disposed and only 7 short in a 100? Babe, we take sensus only once in a decade and the most recent one was in 2001. Then how come UN got one for 2008 LOL!
Based on that census, The proportion of female population had increased by 0.3 percentage points to 48.4% during 1991-2001.
Total population: 1.064 male(s)/female (2006 est.) This shows a rising trend.. See we are working on it LOL.. No guys in the world can make it to 1:1 LOL .. This is a healthy ratio because that .064 males are supposed to die in the war and at dangerous work locations!
You might have burned your head to find reasons for reservation LOL.
Based on that census, The proportion of female population had increased by 0.3 percentage points to 48.4% during 1991-2001.
Total population: 1.064 male(s)/female (2006 est.) This shows a rising trend.. See we are working on it LOL.. No guys in the world can make it to 1:1 LOL .. This is a healthy ratio because that .064 males are supposed to die in the war and at dangerous work locations!
You might have burned your head to find reasons for reservation LOL.
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@Nuya,
The so-called bride shortage is because of you feminists who are giving undue publicity and building fear of having a female child. The male preference is an indication that men are commercialised and treated as money making machines. But to state that women are a minority is plain rubbish. That way, men are a minority in the U.S as male population is less than female population. You are misusing the definition of minority. Minority usually refers to a small and insignificant group of individuals. Minority can never be referred to either male or female who are very close to each other in numbers.
The so-called bride shortage is because of you feminists who are giving undue publicity and building fear of having a female child. The male preference is an indication that men are commercialised and treated as money making machines. But to state that women are a minority is plain rubbish. That way, men are a minority in the U.S as male population is less than female population. You are misusing the definition of minority. Minority usually refers to a small and insignificant group of individuals. Minority can never be referred to either male or female who are very close to each other in numbers.
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where did you get the idea that there is only a shortage of 7 out of 100? All aid agencies of the world say it is as much 30 out of 100, your women hating friends have lied to you yet again. If you are stupid enough to believe lies until it is too late, you are the one who will suffer. Ignore it and lie about it until you too are sharing a wife,buying one from Vietnam, or better yet never get the chance to pass on your genes.
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Oh so no guys in the world can make it 1:1, then why is it that way in all industrialized countries? The are soldiers dying from those countries, but they don’t routinely kill females by the millions.
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Ok school time Nuya. LOL Seems you didnt understand the table shown in the link you gave LOL
Country Year Total Women Men women/100 men
India 2008 1,186,185.6 572,596.6 613,589.1 93
In USA its 103 so MEN are getting killed in USA, c’mon Nuya what a great injustice is going on in USA... you should stop killing men!!!!
Country Year Total Women Men women/100 men
India 2008 1,186,185.6 572,596.6 613,589.1 93
In USA its 103 so MEN are getting killed in USA, c’mon Nuya what a great injustice is going on in USA... you should stop killing men!!!!
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Men are killing each other, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year in all their battles, skirmishes, conflicts and wars, yet they can not kill enough men fast enough to balance the shortage of 60+ million women? That means that females are being killed at even higher rate per day than all the men in all the wars across the whole world.
Just because America doesn’t routinely dispose of females, means that men are the ones responsible for their own untimely demise.
What is your excuse now?
Just because America doesn’t routinely dispose of females, means that men are the ones responsible for their own untimely demise.
What is your excuse now?
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i never said any excuses.. i was refering to your bullshit 30 out of 100 LOL... where did that go you retard..
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@Nuya,
If women are given an opportunity, they would resort to the same killing as men. Don’t tell me that women are morally superior to men in any way! Today’s generation of empowered women have proven to what extent women can stoop down to, something which earlier generations had not imagined. The lower life expectancy of men is mainly due to stress and work conditions. This applies to all nations, not just India.
If women are given an opportunity, they would resort to the same killing as men. Don’t tell me that women are morally superior to men in any way! Today’s generation of empowered women have proven to what extent women can stoop down to, something which earlier generations had not imagined. The lower life expectancy of men is mainly due to stress and work conditions. This applies to all nations, not just India.
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All the same arguments were made by the white majority when they wanted to keep the black minority oppressed. They fought tooth and nail to keep blacks out of schools, out of politics, and impoverished. Somehow, cooler heads prevailed and justice was done at last. Now we have a black president.
Chill out, the world will not come to an end if some poor females get an education.
Chill out, the world will not come to an end if some poor females get an education.
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Thats a whole different racial story which is not comparable with Indian scenario. The % of women representation in Indian parliament is way too higher than any so-called ”first-world” countries! Those women didnt reach that level because of reservation. The question here is about the violation of The Constitution. Even the prominent women leaders in the Constituent Assembly back in forties didnt find the necessity of reservation!!! Then what has changed after 60years? Dr Ambedkar who was the chairman of Constitution Drafting Committee was of minority and from a lower caste; he himself didnt want any sort of reservation, even in that event he didnt want it for more than 10 years!!!
(Global Perspectives)
Btw, you have a BLACK president because the Corporates want him to be there. You are just slaves of Corporates, they will decide what you should do and what not!!!
Why couldnt you manage to make Hilary win? Whats the quality of your vise president? read it here ”Sarah Palin blunders” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1066426/Sarah-Palin-blunders-talks-British-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html
You should first educate these women before the end of the world. They find it more glorious to walk on underwears than governing people LOL.
Why couldnt you manage to make Hilary win? Whats the quality of your vise president? read it here ”Sarah Palin blunders” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1066426/Sarah-Palin-blunders-talks-British-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html
You should first educate these women before the end of the world. They find it more glorious to walk on underwears than governing people LOL.
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File Type: VideoSarah Palin Is Dumber Than Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kiW0S-LJvI&NR=1
Facts: Sarah Palin is Stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irklZ-iZjhI
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That is why Palin is NOT vice president, she is dumber than dirt. The vice president is Joe Biden.
Hillery is stupid too, she caught her husband with his pants down and still stayed with him because of his political power, she can’t be trusted. So that is why she didn’t win.
Corporations are owned by the Republican party, not the Democratic party that the president belongs to. The faulty laws that allowed Bush to be elected even though he did not get the most votes have been changed since then.
The president is the president because he was the most popular not because the corporations controlled the vote this time.
Hillery is stupid too, she caught her husband with his pants down and still stayed with him because of his political power, she can’t be trusted. So that is why she didn’t win.
Corporations are owned by the Republican party, not the Democratic party that the president belongs to. The faulty laws that allowed Bush to be elected even though he did not get the most votes have been changed since then.
The president is the president because he was the most popular not because the corporations controlled the vote this time.
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oh she couldnt make it, good. But still the Governor of alaska, right?. Anyway we dont want such people to come into power through reservations.
And for the BLACK president to become popular how much he (or corporates?) spent? Do you know how much AIG contribute to his election campaign and how he returned the favor?
And for the BLACK president to become popular how much he (or corporates?) spent? Do you know how much AIG contribute to his election campaign and how he returned the favor?
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And an Indian is Governor of Louisiana, I guess he got kick backs from corporations too? An Austrian is governor of California, did he get kick backs too? As did all Blacks, Hispanics, women, Chinese, Vietnamese and all other minorities and immigrants who are governors, mayors, police chiefs, senators, representatives etc.? None of them would be where they are today if someone along the way had not put up a fight and made some reservation programs for minorities.
Palin would not have gotten a reservation, she was born wealthy.
The rest of us have no idea how she was elected...Alaska is north of Canada and not even connected to the rest of the states, so we never hear much about it. That is a total mystery!!!
Palin would not have gotten a reservation, she was born wealthy.
The rest of us have no idea how she was elected...Alaska is north of Canada and not even connected to the rest of the states, so we never hear much about it. That is a total mystery!!!
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we do give reservations for minorities.. But giving reservations based on Gender is against the Constitution of India. If you are arguing just for the sake of argument, go ahead.
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@Nuya,
Mass generalisation that women are oppressed and men are the oppressors. Infact, men are more oppressed than women. There is no other reason why 94% of people who die in wars, in the course of work etc are men and not women. There is no other reason why men have no support systems anywhere in the world! Yet, they say that women are oppressed. Secondly, the issue here is about women’s reservation and not about girl’s education. Nobody is keeping women away from politics and schools. Women are free to contest and win on their own. If women were kept away from politics, we wouldn’t have a woman Prime Minister for 15 years and another who is a defacto PM from Italy, called Sonia Gandhi. Nor would we have a woman President and woman Speaker. Have some sense! Nobody is keeping women away. Infact, quite to the contrary, women want men to be kept away and that is why they want reserved seats so that women alone can contest in the reserved seats and they can try and win from the unreserved too!
Mass generalisation that women are oppressed and men are the oppressors. Infact, men are more oppressed than women. There is no other reason why 94% of people who die in wars, in the course of work etc are men and not women. There is no other reason why men have no support systems anywhere in the world! Yet, they say that women are oppressed. Secondly, the issue here is about women’s reservation and not about girl’s education. Nobody is keeping women away from politics and schools. Women are free to contest and win on their own. If women were kept away from politics, we wouldn’t have a woman Prime Minister for 15 years and another who is a defacto PM from Italy, called Sonia Gandhi. Nor would we have a woman President and woman Speaker. Have some sense! Nobody is keeping women away. Infact, quite to the contrary, women want men to be kept away and that is why they want reserved seats so that women alone can contest in the reserved seats and they can try and win from the unreserved too!
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Passoon,
Women ARE a minority in your country. since a girl child is the most unwanted member of a family, they are regularly disposed of.
You asked why the reservations were not in place 60 years ago, the answer is simple, there where no ultra-sound machines and sex selective abortions 60 years ago!
Some people are so stupid that they never figured out that killing the female babies meant there would never be any grown women. Like Rohan, they just expect there to be full grown submissive sex slaves falling from the sky whenever they get ready for one. It is NOT going to happen! Educate females so their stupid families will not see them as a burden! If that means reservations... so be it!
Women ARE a minority in your country. since a girl child is the most unwanted member of a family, they are regularly disposed of.
You asked why the reservations were not in place 60 years ago, the answer is simple, there where no ultra-sound machines and sex selective abortions 60 years ago!
Some people are so stupid that they never figured out that killing the female babies meant there would never be any grown women. Like Rohan, they just expect there to be full grown submissive sex slaves falling from the sky whenever they get ready for one. It is NOT going to happen! Educate females so their stupid families will not see them as a burden! If that means reservations... so be it!
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60 years of education didnt help building up women’s self-esteem. Look at you, still begging for charity.
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@Nuya,
Don’t misuse the term ’Minority’ to suit women and get all kinds of privileges. Minority refers to a small and insignificant population of a group. Women in India constitute almost half the population and by no stretch of imagination can they branded a minority. Secondly, ultra sound technology or female foeticide has nothing and absolutely nothing to do with reservations. Infact, men are far more oppressed than women! Men need reservations more than women!
Don’t misuse the term ’Minority’ to suit women and get all kinds of privileges. Minority refers to a small and insignificant population of a group. Women in India constitute almost half the population and by no stretch of imagination can they branded a minority. Secondly, ultra sound technology or female foeticide has nothing and absolutely nothing to do with reservations. Infact, men are far more oppressed than women! Men need reservations more than women!
(Local Perspectives)
Now a days abortion clinics are mushrooming just to avoid the babies from illicit relationships. Teens want to save their face! There is no gender factor in it.. You have no idea about ground realities, so i will not blame you for whatever concerns you come up with. Thats the reason people over here are busy educating you with atmost care and patience. :) See Nuya, Indian women are confused, They even have a commission for that NCW, National Confused Women. They want to be liberal but want to show themselves as traditional!!!!!! LOL
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@Prassoon, Your reference to abortion clinics and the attitude of Indian women today was very apt. I have seen enough of it myself where women wear the sexist of clothes, have extra-marital affairs and when the husband wants to divorce, she says, ”What will happen to my life; see I I am a woman”. They are taking advantages of tradition and modernity with the blessings of feminists.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, stop talking to yourself, you are already crazy enough.
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@Nuya,
”Rohan, stop talking to yourself, you are already crazy enough.”
Don’t get so panicky on being cornered. Try to do your homework better.
”Rohan, stop talking to yourself, you are already crazy enough.”
Don’t get so panicky on being cornered. Try to do your homework better.
(Local Perspectives)
This Bill is like giving crutches/wheelchairs to people who cant walk due to polio, with no plans and projects of vaccination and eradicate polio.
Women with self-esteem says ”No pride in Women’s Reservation Bill”
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/justso/entry/no-pride-in-women-s
It is clear that the real motive behind this Bill is hidden!
Women with self-esteem says ”No pride in Women’s Reservation Bill”
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/justso/entry/no-pride-in-women-s
It is clear that the real motive behind this Bill is hidden!
(Global Perspectives)
I had been reading Rohan D’s posts and comments here with great interest. I would like to pick up a few extremely valid points that he has arisen here.
Completely agree. The media have far realized that to survive and make profit, cater to the tastes of the womenfolk in the households. The ’saas-bahu’ serials not only changed the way what television serials are made these days, but also how ’news’ is disseminated by the tabloid-type so called news channels (almost 100 percent of the Hindi ’news’ channels and 90 percent of the vernacular ’news’ channels).
This is a dangerous trend for the society as it is slowly giving in to the rabid feminists and ’women welfare activists’.
Sadly, whatever credibility is left about the Fourth Estate lies with a few old broadsheets.
@Rohan:
India has a long history of twisting and bypassing the letter and spirit of the Constitution when it comes to the gender ’equality’ factor. We have seen how Rajiv Gandhi shamelessly used the brute majority of his party to nullify the Supreme Court judgment in the Shah Bano case to appease the Muslim males in general and mullahs in particular.
There are many more points I would like to raise here. However, given the fact that I have a morbid fear of frenzied female commenters here who are perpetually sick due to hormonal imbalances, I would not like to carry this discussion further.
It is very sad and unfortunate that the Indian media has been taking the side and promoting the concept of reservation for women without ever, for once, showing the negative side of such a concept.
Completely agree. The media have far realized that to survive and make profit, cater to the tastes of the womenfolk in the households. The ’saas-bahu’ serials not only changed the way what television serials are made these days, but also how ’news’ is disseminated by the tabloid-type so called news channels (almost 100 percent of the Hindi ’news’ channels and 90 percent of the vernacular ’news’ channels).
This is a dangerous trend for the society as it is slowly giving in to the rabid feminists and ’women welfare activists’.
Sadly, whatever credibility is left about the Fourth Estate lies with a few old broadsheets.
@Rohan:
India has a long history of twisting and bypassing the letter and spirit of the Constitution when it comes to the gender ’equality’ factor. We have seen how Rajiv Gandhi shamelessly used the brute majority of his party to nullify the Supreme Court judgment in the Shah Bano case to appease the Muslim males in general and mullahs in particular.
There are no measures to make sure that the benefits are received by the socially backward and underprivileged women, who really need them. There are no objective criteria to prevent the elite class or “creamy layer” of women from taking undue and unfair advantage of this legislation.Exactly! We will then see a lot of MP wives and daughters taking the place of their husbands or fathers as we saw in 100s of cases in the village panchayats. The male will rule by proxy. So, how does it change the ground situation?
There are many more points I would like to raise here. However, given the fact that I have a morbid fear of frenzied female commenters here who are perpetually sick due to hormonal imbalances, I would not like to carry this discussion further.
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@Jayanta,
I cannot agree with you better. It is ultimately politics and gender politics. It is a balance of vote-banks. In the Shah Bano case, the muslim vote became more important than the women vote. When it comes to women-centric laws and policies, in the absence of a male vote-bank, the women’s interest alone is protected. Same with women’s reservation bill.
I cannot agree with you better. It is ultimately politics and gender politics. It is a balance of vote-banks. In the Shah Bano case, the muslim vote became more important than the women vote. When it comes to women-centric laws and policies, in the absence of a male vote-bank, the women’s interest alone is protected. Same with women’s reservation bill.
(Local Perspectives)
When you have to start ’Sharing’ wives like they are doing now in other parts of India and in China, you will not be so full hate for females. 20+ years of sex selective abortions will be bringing the wife sharing to your town soon enough.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
20 years of sex selective abortions just mean 2 things. 1. Men are nothing more than money making machines and are believed so. 2. Feminists have created far more fear and panic among the people with their propaganda about women victimhood which is far from the truth. Men are as much oppressed as women. Nobody talks about male victimhood. This panic created by feminists is the root cause of this. STOP THIS PROPAGANDA OF FEMALE VICTIMHOOD AND THINGS WILL BE PERFECTLY FINE. Earlier societies never did this except in some exceptional cases. These exceptional case have been exaggerated and highlighted by the feminist, western media to show Indians in poor light.
20 years of sex selective abortions just mean 2 things. 1. Men are nothing more than money making machines and are believed so. 2. Feminists have created far more fear and panic among the people with their propaganda about women victimhood which is far from the truth. Men are as much oppressed as women. Nobody talks about male victimhood. This panic created by feminists is the root cause of this. STOP THIS PROPAGANDA OF FEMALE VICTIMHOOD AND THINGS WILL BE PERFECTLY FINE. Earlier societies never did this except in some exceptional cases. These exceptional case have been exaggerated and highlighted by the feminist, western media to show Indians in poor light.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, The PROPAGANDA is ”How to live at someone elses cost” LOL for that they make hue and cry on every silly things hahahaha.. i feel pity on them..
(Global Perspectives)
Well, that is why all the women are in such a hurry to get an education, so they will never have to depend on the pathetic likes of you for support. No one will be living at your cost, you won’t even be able to buy a blind, cripple and crazy woman from a remote village. You will have no one to pass your legacy of woman hating on to.
(Global Perspectives)
”....women are in such a hurry to get an education, so... ”
Thats the reason why i address you as retard, you have no freaking idea what the heck is going on in India. Even those who earn more than their husbands are running behind the husbands like stray dogs to get maintenance!!! You gotta know some ground realities before you start vomiting shit.
Thats the reason why i address you as retard, you have no freaking idea what the heck is going on in India. Even those who earn more than their husbands are running behind the husbands like stray dogs to get maintenance!!! You gotta know some ground realities before you start vomiting shit.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
”Well, that is why all the women are in such a hurry to get an education, so they will never have to depend on the pathetic likes of you for support. No one will be living at your cost, you won’t even be able to buy a blind, cripple and crazy woman from a remote village. You will have no one to pass your legacy of woman hating on to”————————————————
Women are out there to take advantages of tradition and modernity. They certainly want to be independent and yet make the men pay for their independence. I cannot find any matrimonial profiles where women ask for unemployed men. I cannot find the feminists who talk about equality asking for gender-neutral alimony laws. Every year, 7200 crores is spent on women’s welfare; not a single rupee on men’s welfare. Men pay higher taxes than women. So much for equality. Lastly, hatred is what you feminists have patented. You hate men and anybody who finds faults in feminism.
”Well, that is why all the women are in such a hurry to get an education, so they will never have to depend on the pathetic likes of you for support. No one will be living at your cost, you won’t even be able to buy a blind, cripple and crazy woman from a remote village. You will have no one to pass your legacy of woman hating on to”————————————————
Women are out there to take advantages of tradition and modernity. They certainly want to be independent and yet make the men pay for their independence. I cannot find any matrimonial profiles where women ask for unemployed men. I cannot find the feminists who talk about equality asking for gender-neutral alimony laws. Every year, 7200 crores is spent on women’s welfare; not a single rupee on men’s welfare. Men pay higher taxes than women. So much for equality. Lastly, hatred is what you feminists have patented. You hate men and anybody who finds faults in feminism.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, About all those whores that you ’SAY’ you know, the ones getting abortions, First, what are you doing hanging around with so many whores and second, why are they telling you when they are getting abortions if you are not the father?
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
I don’t need to be in contact with whores to know that they exist. I am on many communities and I know profiles that openly display their details. I also know from my Doctor friends what brings in more business for them.
I don’t need to be in contact with whores to know that they exist. I am on many communities and I know profiles that openly display their details. I also know from my Doctor friends what brings in more business for them.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, you have never had a friend in your life, much less being friends with abortion doctors. No doctor in the world is allowed to discuss patients medical histories with anyone. You are full of shit if you expect anyone to believe that women are announcing on Facebook that they had abortions. You are one of the worst liars in the world.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
When a feminazi is cornered, she starts abusing everybody. Ahh you know about my life and my friends more than me right....and you know that I don’t have any Doctors as friends. And you know more about India than I know eh? BTW, yes, my Doctor friends have told me in general without revealing names and details. They have even told me that the percentage has increased in the last 5 years. No woman would say on facebook that she went an abortion but there are plenty on all these sites offering sex and having nude pics. It is understood.
When a feminazi is cornered, she starts abusing everybody. Ahh you know about my life and my friends more than me right....and you know that I don’t have any Doctors as friends. And you know more about India than I know eh? BTW, yes, my Doctor friends have told me in general without revealing names and details. They have even told me that the percentage has increased in the last 5 years. No woman would say on facebook that she went an abortion but there are plenty on all these sites offering sex and having nude pics. It is understood.
(Local Perspectives)
Dearest Rohan
U say that women are not kept away from anything I would suggest u start reading newspapers (provided u r not blind since u seemed to me so).They are deprived even from the right to live come into to this world, their own parents killing them right in the womb,her only fault she is a girl.She is deprived from education,the right to enjoy an innocent childhood because still many girls hardly in their teens are married of to men twice- thrice their age.Just think how unfortunate is that child whose own parents consider her a worthless dispensable unwanted burden.Women r the most undernourished member of a family.She is considered a liability not an asset.I dont know how u ended up becoming such a womenhater but just try to use a bit of logic to see how wrong and inhuman are the things that r being done to women here in India.As Nuya said there are about a million female foetuses being killed every year n many newborn girls abandoned(did u read the story of a girl eaten up by dogs in our very own capital city?)the time is not far when there will appear a shortage of wives in India.This problem has already affected the west(punjab,haryana) which has the lowest F/M sex ratio n men there buy wives from the northeast.How can u support the inhuman practice of selling of girls as if they r nothing but mere objects of pleasure.For these girls getting married is nothing but lifelong prostitution.Reading these stories I feel hesitant about calling our society a civilized one.Dont think I hate my country but there r lot of things which need to change.Do u know how many girls get raped here every year(19000),how many girls get killed by their boyfrnds, husbands,inlaws (17000).These r just the no. of reported cases n according to NCB only 19% of the crimes get reported either due to fear of social shame or lack of faith in the judicial system.Out of these cases in only 17% cases the offender is punished n most of them r never caught n yhe rest get away by bribing the police.Our country’s law n order system r filled with loopholes n with corrupt people heading it its indeed a grim scenario for the abused girls.I hope ur eyes soon open to the tremendously dark condition of the women of our country.I know u might b rolling ur eyes right now in disgust but whatever I have said whether u believe it or not r facts n not smthing I have made up.
U say that women are not kept away from anything I would suggest u start reading newspapers (provided u r not blind since u seemed to me so).They are deprived even from the right to live come into to this world, their own parents killing them right in the womb,her only fault she is a girl.She is deprived from education,the right to enjoy an innocent childhood because still many girls hardly in their teens are married of to men twice- thrice their age.Just think how unfortunate is that child whose own parents consider her a worthless dispensable unwanted burden.Women r the most undernourished member of a family.She is considered a liability not an asset.I dont know how u ended up becoming such a womenhater but just try to use a bit of logic to see how wrong and inhuman are the things that r being done to women here in India.As Nuya said there are about a million female foetuses being killed every year n many newborn girls abandoned(did u read the story of a girl eaten up by dogs in our very own capital city?)the time is not far when there will appear a shortage of wives in India.This problem has already affected the west(punjab,haryana) which has the lowest F/M sex ratio n men there buy wives from the northeast.How can u support the inhuman practice of selling of girls as if they r nothing but mere objects of pleasure.For these girls getting married is nothing but lifelong prostitution.Reading these stories I feel hesitant about calling our society a civilized one.Dont think I hate my country but there r lot of things which need to change.Do u know how many girls get raped here every year(19000),how many girls get killed by their boyfrnds, husbands,inlaws (17000).These r just the no. of reported cases n according to NCB only 19% of the crimes get reported either due to fear of social shame or lack of faith in the judicial system.Out of these cases in only 17% cases the offender is punished n most of them r never caught n yhe rest get away by bribing the police.Our country’s law n order system r filled with loopholes n with corrupt people heading it its indeed a grim scenario for the abused girls.I hope ur eyes soon open to the tremendously dark condition of the women of our country.I know u might b rolling ur eyes right now in disgust but whatever I have said whether u believe it or not r facts n not smthing I have made up.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mouli,
Firstly, I am not a woman hater. I am certainly a feminist hater. Feminism is not just anti-male but it is anti-family, anti-society and anti-woman in the long run. Secondly, media and newspapers show one-sided, exaggerated and false news. The fourth estate is the biggest failure in India! The statistics that you have mentioned is all based on wrong collection of data. Do you even know that a mere allegation of a woman against a man is a cognisable offense and straight away gets registered as a criminal case in the statistics while a case by a man against a woman is non-cognisable and does not even get registered as a criminal case, let alone getting into the statistics? Hence, the 19000 rape case, 17000 dowry cases etc that you have stated are based on wrong data. They are mere allegations and not convictions. 98% of dowry cases registered are false. Similarly, your allegation that only 19% of cases get reported is bunk as there is absolutely no means of finding that out. Men also do not report harassment by women for a greater fear of being mocked and ridiculed. Lastly, your response is a typical feminist one wherein you claim that women are tortured from birth, not educated etc. You need to come to this 21st century instead of living in the 18th century. You also need to know that this drama of feminists cannot go on for long as men will soon see the game and fight back! Men are as much oppressed as women except that it is hidden and not obvious.
Firstly, I am not a woman hater. I am certainly a feminist hater. Feminism is not just anti-male but it is anti-family, anti-society and anti-woman in the long run. Secondly, media and newspapers show one-sided, exaggerated and false news. The fourth estate is the biggest failure in India! The statistics that you have mentioned is all based on wrong collection of data. Do you even know that a mere allegation of a woman against a man is a cognisable offense and straight away gets registered as a criminal case in the statistics while a case by a man against a woman is non-cognisable and does not even get registered as a criminal case, let alone getting into the statistics? Hence, the 19000 rape case, 17000 dowry cases etc that you have stated are based on wrong data. They are mere allegations and not convictions. 98% of dowry cases registered are false. Similarly, your allegation that only 19% of cases get reported is bunk as there is absolutely no means of finding that out. Men also do not report harassment by women for a greater fear of being mocked and ridiculed. Lastly, your response is a typical feminist one wherein you claim that women are tortured from birth, not educated etc. You need to come to this 21st century instead of living in the 18th century. You also need to know that this drama of feminists cannot go on for long as men will soon see the game and fight back! Men are as much oppressed as women except that it is hidden and not obvious.
(Local Perspectives)
Buying wives? thanks for the info. After all its not to make money out of it. Are men so great to buy those who are considered to be a worthless dispensable unwanted burden?
Ever heard of kidnapping husbands? That too happen in India! 209 Men Kidnapped for Marriage http://www.wethemen.us/images/stories/209%20Men%20kidnapped%20for%20marriage.pdf :) Sorry Nuya its in Hindi. But 33% Reservation is not a solution for these.
Ever heard of kidnapping husbands? That too happen in India! 209 Men Kidnapped for Marriage http://www.wethemen.us/images/stories/209%20Men%20kidnapped%20for%20marriage.pdf :) Sorry Nuya its in Hindi. But 33% Reservation is not a solution for these.
(Global Perspectives)
@Mouli,
A big hug to you from across the world. I have seen so much hatred of Indian women here on Instablogs that it truly makes me feel sick to my stomach. I truly did not realize that so much hatred could be aimed at one’s mothers, sisters, aunts and grandmothers just because they were unfortunate enough to be born female.
When I read of all the women forced to kill their daughters, I was horrified but when I read of the ones killing them to spare them from the life of misery that Indian women endure, I cried.
The saying..”The girl child is the most unwanted member of the family.” Gave me nightmares, it haunted my sleep for days. It is not even possible to imagine that a person a half a world away is more affected by this than the men on this forum.
They truly don’t care and they are doing everything in their power to make sure that the attitude that allows millions of Indian female fetuses and babies be destroyed continues.
China has the same attitude toward females and they have widespread shortages of marriage age females as well. American’s have adopted thousands and thousands of Chinese baby girls, that are left for dead by their families.
I am afraid that they will just keep rolling their eyes and fostering hatred for females until the time when so many are left without wives that they turn vicious and wild and destroy their own country.
A big hug to you from across the world. I have seen so much hatred of Indian women here on Instablogs that it truly makes me feel sick to my stomach. I truly did not realize that so much hatred could be aimed at one’s mothers, sisters, aunts and grandmothers just because they were unfortunate enough to be born female.
When I read of all the women forced to kill their daughters, I was horrified but when I read of the ones killing them to spare them from the life of misery that Indian women endure, I cried.
The saying..”The girl child is the most unwanted member of the family.” Gave me nightmares, it haunted my sleep for days. It is not even possible to imagine that a person a half a world away is more affected by this than the men on this forum.
They truly don’t care and they are doing everything in their power to make sure that the attitude that allows millions of Indian female fetuses and babies be destroyed continues.
China has the same attitude toward females and they have widespread shortages of marriage age females as well. American’s have adopted thousands and thousands of Chinese baby girls, that are left for dead by their families.
I am afraid that they will just keep rolling their eyes and fostering hatred for females until the time when so many are left without wives that they turn vicious and wild and destroy their own country.
(Global Perspectives)
LOL i dont know from where Nuya got this stat of millions which she is going paranoid about. She gave a link which doesnt show any problem at all with the sex ratio in India.. And now great Drama here hahaha.. Hey all i can say is if you feel sick to your stomach why dont you consider throwing up? LOL
(Global Perspectives)
@Mouli,
Don’t you just love how the WHOLE world is wrong and these 2 morons are the only ones who can interpret data? and they have interpreted it to mean that India is only short a few marriageable women, when every news agency, human rights agency, humanitarian aid agency and census counter in the world says otherwise??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2008/11/081107_india_dowry.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/000938.html
http://search.sph.harvard.edu/search?ie=&site=HSPH_Homepage&output=xml_no_dtd&client=HSPH_Homepage&lr=&proxystylesheet=HSPH_Homepage&oe=&q=sex+ratio+trends+in+India+from+1981+to+1991&sa.x=15&sa.y=10&sa=Google+Search
http://www.genocidewatch.org/IndiaThepriceofbeingawomanslaveryinmodernindiaapr06.htm
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/girl_shortage_could_cause_rise_in_crime/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/04/AR2005120401133.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/06/19/india.women/
http://www.indiatogether.org/2003/jul/wom-girls.htm
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2008/02/04/2003400200
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1953882,00.html
http://www.shaktivahini.org/?p=496
A few slots at university won’t make up for this, but it is a start.
Don’t you just love how the WHOLE world is wrong and these 2 morons are the only ones who can interpret data? and they have interpreted it to mean that India is only short a few marriageable women, when every news agency, human rights agency, humanitarian aid agency and census counter in the world says otherwise??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2008/11/081107_india_dowry.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2723513.stm
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/000938.html
http://search.sph.harvard.edu/search?ie=&site=HSPH_Homepage&output=xml_no_dtd&client=HSPH_Homepage&lr=&proxystylesheet=HSPH_Homepage&oe=&q=sex+ratio+trends+in+India+from+1981+to+1991&sa.x=15&sa.y=10&sa=Google+Search
http://www.genocidewatch.org/IndiaThepriceofbeingawomanslaveryinmodernindiaapr06.htm
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/girl_shortage_could_cause_rise_in_crime/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/04/AR2005120401133.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/06/19/india.women/
http://www.indiatogether.org/2003/jul/wom-girls.htm
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2008/02/04/2003400200
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1953882,00.html
http://www.shaktivahini.org/?p=496
A few slots at university won’t make up for this, but it is a start.
(Global Perspectives)
i hate educating retards. So UN report is nothing now.. doing a lot of home work huh? trying to find what went wrong? LOL When i get time i will go through these and will try to make you understand what it is..
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
”A big hug to you from across the world. I have seen so much hatred of Indian women here on Instablogs that it truly makes me feel sick to my stomach. I truly did not realize that so much hatred could be aimed at one’s mothers, sisters, aunts and grandmothers just because they were unfortunate enough to be born female.”———————————————-
The hatred is spread you western feminists like you who want to destroy the Indian value systems and you have been more than successful in doing it. The hatred of feminists for men is of epic proportions and beyond human understanding as none of these feminists were born without a father, probobly has brothers and grandpas. To top it, its wonder how women’s activists are concerned only with women in role of a wife and had no qualms when 1.3 lakh women were arrested without investigation under various laws, 98% of those women to be acquitted subsequently. This is called gender equality and women’s welfare.
YOUR LECTURE ON FEMALE VICTIMHOOD IN THE LATER PART OF YOUR REPLY TO HER NEED NO RESPONSE. ITS THE SAME BULLSHIT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM WOMEN’S GROUPS SINCE 100 YEARS.
”A big hug to you from across the world. I have seen so much hatred of Indian women here on Instablogs that it truly makes me feel sick to my stomach. I truly did not realize that so much hatred could be aimed at one’s mothers, sisters, aunts and grandmothers just because they were unfortunate enough to be born female.”———————————————-
The hatred is spread you western feminists like you who want to destroy the Indian value systems and you have been more than successful in doing it. The hatred of feminists for men is of epic proportions and beyond human understanding as none of these feminists were born without a father, probobly has brothers and grandpas. To top it, its wonder how women’s activists are concerned only with women in role of a wife and had no qualms when 1.3 lakh women were arrested without investigation under various laws, 98% of those women to be acquitted subsequently. This is called gender equality and women’s welfare.
YOUR LECTURE ON FEMALE VICTIMHOOD IN THE LATER PART OF YOUR REPLY TO HER NEED NO RESPONSE. ITS THE SAME BULLSHIT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM WOMEN’S GROUPS SINCE 100 YEARS.
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
”@Mouli,
Don’t you just love how the WHOLE world is wrong and these 2 morons are the only ones who can interpret data? and they have interpreted it to mean that India is only short a few marriageable women, when every news agency, human rights agency, humanitarian aid agency and census counter in the world says otherwise??”—————————————–
The feminist retard that you are, you haven’t questioned the basis on which this stupid data was collected. Your cronies are there in the U.N. with the intention to enslave men through the U.N. Stop farting data from the U.N. where your retarded feminist colleages rule the roost.
”@Mouli,
Don’t you just love how the WHOLE world is wrong and these 2 morons are the only ones who can interpret data? and they have interpreted it to mean that India is only short a few marriageable women, when every news agency, human rights agency, humanitarian aid agency and census counter in the world says otherwise??”—————————————–
The feminist retard that you are, you haven’t questioned the basis on which this stupid data was collected. Your cronies are there in the U.N. with the intention to enslave men through the U.N. Stop farting data from the U.N. where your retarded feminist colleages rule the roost.
(Local Perspectives)
It is not just the UN, it is EVERY agency in the whole world that keeps track of trends in population, I just used one so as not to overtax your feeble brain.
Look, you have said repeatedly that you do not care what happens to females. They are worthless, evil, greedy, murderous and all are whores according to you. They are not worth saving in your opinion. You have stated repeatedly that women should have all of their rights taken away. Dowry? her father should pay for the privilege for her spread her legs for you? Are you insane?? she should stay covered from head to toe in 110 degree weather, suffering heat because you are so jealous that someone might even look at her? She should labor from sun up to well into the night, serving your every need, just for the clothes on her back and food she eats, because she inherits nothing ....yes yes yes... we understand completely.
Look, you have said repeatedly that you do not care what happens to females. They are worthless, evil, greedy, murderous and all are whores according to you. They are not worth saving in your opinion. You have stated repeatedly that women should have all of their rights taken away. Dowry? her father should pay for the privilege for her spread her legs for you? Are you insane?? she should stay covered from head to toe in 110 degree weather, suffering heat because you are so jealous that someone might even look at her? She should labor from sun up to well into the night, serving your every need, just for the clothes on her back and food she eats, because she inherits nothing ....yes yes yes... we understand completely.
(Global Perspectives)
^^^^^
Not even worth a reply. I am in conversation with a feminazi who looks through coloured vision and now she cannot read what is written.
Not even worth a reply. I am in conversation with a feminazi who looks through coloured vision and now she cannot read what is written.
(Local Perspectives)
Why not Women Reservation and the other millions of why notts woman have endured over the centuries
Life of the conscious is the story of man, not woman ,because she to man was a piece of his consciousness and to be used as he sees fit in his story
After all all the gods he makeup never come to woman so how could they have value if the creator of the universe has no value for them
Man are not ready to give up control and all the logic in the world will be able to penetrate what took thousands of years to form
Life of the conscious is the story of man, not woman ,because she to man was a piece of his consciousness and to be used as he sees fit in his story
After all all the gods he makeup never come to woman so how could they have value if the creator of the universe has no value for them
Man are not ready to give up control and all the logic in the world will be able to penetrate what took thousands of years to form
(Global Perspectives)
Sad but true Wayne, if enlightenment were a gift wrapped in pretty red paper with a big bow on top, these men would slap it from the hand of the barer. If the barer were a woman, not only would they slap it to the ground, they would stomp it into the dirt then bury it too. They do not even care about the survival of their own race, which we had thought the ultimate impetus for human behavior. Totally, illogical!
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
Lets see who is not bothered about survival about one’s own race - the men who support the family values and marriage system or the feminists who are anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage and are openly against the family system. Feminists are the ones who believe that marriage and family are elements of oppression for women. So destroy them. Now who is not bothered about the survival of the human race? The feminists or we?
Lets see who is not bothered about survival about one’s own race - the men who support the family values and marriage system or the feminists who are anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage and are openly against the family system. Feminists are the ones who believe that marriage and family are elements of oppression for women. So destroy them. Now who is not bothered about the survival of the human race? The feminists or we?
(Local Perspectives)
Just because a woman does not think women should be made prisoners, chained to the stove, squirting out baby after baby and killed or discarded if she fails to produce a male child, does not make her a femanazi. Improving the quality of life for women and children is what will save humanity, not klinging to your barbaric ways which has brought so much misery to the world.
Look, you will never see any value in females, it does not matter what I or anyone else says. You have made up your mind that women are just dumb animals to be used and discarded, you will go to your grave thinking that. So, I won’t try to convince otherwise, I will leave you wallowing in your hatred, I hope it brings you comfort in you old age, because that is all you will have.
Look, you will never see any value in females, it does not matter what I or anyone else says. You have made up your mind that women are just dumb animals to be used and discarded, you will go to your grave thinking that. So, I won’t try to convince otherwise, I will leave you wallowing in your hatred, I hope it brings you comfort in you old age, because that is all you will have.
(Global Perspectives)
Am living in the 21st century. if u dont rely on the statistical data read newspapers.I come across news of abuse of women in some form or the other(child sexual abuse,molestation,rape,dowry death,child marriage)everyday.And in most cases the report ends with ’investigation is going on police have yet been unable to track the criminals’ or ’the convict got bail after being reprimanded in custody for 14 days’.WOW !!14 days in jail,as if that is punishment enough for ending an innocent life.FAIR JUSTICE ALWAYS ELUDES THE FAIR SEX.U r too stubborn to see the point even if it is staring u in the face.Wayne is right it is hard to change the male mentality which has been formed that way over millions of years.
(Local Perspectives)
Mouli: Ever looked at NCRB suicide stats? You will get a clear picture of 21st Century. Suicides due to Rape and physical abuse count only 305 which is what media give publicity everyday but Sucides due to family problems are 122637. You will never read that in News Papers, because the majority who dies are husbands!!! And sick society doesnt want to read that. IF no readers they cant run their biz. What you see in news paper are only half-truths. The married men-women sucide rate is 65:35!!! It is about 25% more than last year.. Wayne is right, its hard to change male mentality which has been formed in a way to sympathise women and giving undue reservations and provisions which are getting rampantly misused!!!
(Global Perspectives)
so 3 thousand suicides by husbands compared to 2.1 million deaths of females by abortion, infanticide, honor killings, dowry killings, abuse, neglect etc. Women are being bought, sold, traded, raped, gang raped, beaten, forced to have abortions, forced into marriage, forced to have babies before they are old enough and dying from it, forced to have too many babies and shortening their lifespans because of it, and the police will not lift a finger to stop it, but we are supposed to feel sorry for men?
Wayne is wrong, your mentality has NOT evolved at all in the past million years, you are just as savage as the day you crawled out of the primordial ooze!
Wayne is wrong, your mentality has NOT evolved at all in the past million years, you are just as savage as the day you crawled out of the primordial ooze!
(Global Perspectives)
OH yea, and about those suicides, mothers are not as cowardly to take the easy way out when their children will be left behind with no one to protect them.
(Global Perspectives)
hahaha You should tell this to kindergarten kids that count of women in India, having a population of 1.2 billion, is slightly less than men because of abortion, infanticide, honor killings, dowry killings, abuse, neglect etc.
Readers would be interested to hear your lunatic logic about 4.789 million American men. I know, now you will ask me how did you get this number LOL... ok here is the math..
Total women in USA = 156793900
Total men in USA = 152004400
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Difference = 4789500
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Who killed this many MEN? Whats the reason of this huge difference. Whats the reason for this gross injustice towards MEN?
Readers would be interested to hear your lunatic logic about 4.789 million American men. I know, now you will ask me how did you get this number LOL... ok here is the math..
Total women in USA = 156793900
Total men in USA = 152004400
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Difference = 4789500
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Who killed this many MEN? Whats the reason of this huge difference. Whats the reason for this gross injustice towards MEN?
(Global Perspectives)
{Men are killing each other, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year in all their battles, skirmishes, conflicts and wars, yet they can not kill enough men fast enough to balance the shortage of 60+ million women? That means that females are being killed at even higher rate per day than all the men in all the wars across the whole world.
Just because America doesn’t routinely dispose of females, means that men are the ones responsible for their own untimely demise.
What is your excuse now? }
All of those 4 million ”Extra” women in America are over the age of 65. Which is just as it should be to account for all the males lost in wars.
What is your excuse now?
Just because America doesn’t routinely dispose of females, means that men are the ones responsible for their own untimely demise.
What is your excuse now? }
All of those 4 million ”Extra” women in America are over the age of 65. Which is just as it should be to account for all the males lost in wars.
What is your excuse now?
(Global Perspectives)
i never had any excuse, i just want to make you retard understand that.. now you can replace that with indian men.. there are a lot of age old indian men!!!
(Global Perspectives)
@Mouli,
First of all stop calling women ’Fair sex’. Probably in the past, they were. But the new empowered women of the modern cannot take the advantage of tradition and call herself the fair sex. Next, newspaper are the biggest curse on modern India. Gone are days of genuineness. Newspaper reports news and views according to their own agenda. The specific cases that you have mentioned only show one side of it. 98% of dowry cases are false and women are unfairly misusing the laws to gain property, money and what not. Moreover, those same newspapers report about men being killed or committing suicide but your eyes seem to focus on only women’s issues and crimes against them. Have you ever asked how many men are murdered? Crime statistics against men is much much higher than women. Except that when a crime happens against a woman, it becomes s big issue. When crimes happen against men, they are passed off as routine. Lastly, wayne logic type of men are always there in society and at all times. Their intenton is to please women. The statistics speak something totally different. Quite on the contrary of what he said and what you women always keep cribbing about, the mentality of woen cribbing and complaining cannot be changed as this is a mindset that has existed for millions of years, since the ice age. Except that women cannot tolerate when men complain about women. The responses of you and other women prove that point.
First of all stop calling women ’Fair sex’. Probably in the past, they were. But the new empowered women of the modern cannot take the advantage of tradition and call herself the fair sex. Next, newspaper are the biggest curse on modern India. Gone are days of genuineness. Newspaper reports news and views according to their own agenda. The specific cases that you have mentioned only show one side of it. 98% of dowry cases are false and women are unfairly misusing the laws to gain property, money and what not. Moreover, those same newspapers report about men being killed or committing suicide but your eyes seem to focus on only women’s issues and crimes against them. Have you ever asked how many men are murdered? Crime statistics against men is much much higher than women. Except that when a crime happens against a woman, it becomes s big issue. When crimes happen against men, they are passed off as routine. Lastly, wayne logic type of men are always there in society and at all times. Their intenton is to please women. The statistics speak something totally different. Quite on the contrary of what he said and what you women always keep cribbing about, the mentality of woen cribbing and complaining cannot be changed as this is a mindset that has existed for millions of years, since the ice age. Except that women cannot tolerate when men complain about women. The responses of you and other women prove that point.
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
”so 3 thousand suicides by husbands compared to 2.1 million deaths of females by abortion, infanticide, honor killings, dowry killings, abuse, neglect etc. Women are being bought, sold, traded, raped, gang raped, beaten, forced to have abortions, forced into marriage, forced to have babies before they are old enough and dying from it, forced to have too many babies and shortening their lifespans because of it, and the police will not lift a finger to stop it, but we are supposed to feel sorry for men?”——————————————-
Its suicides of married men alone that Prassoon is referring to. Further, the actual casualty of men due to work conditions, wars, rescue and relief operations, and accidents is even larger. The statistics of 2.1 million is absolutely bunk and is based on false collection of data. Every death of a married lady within 7 years of marriage is automatically taken as a dowry death. That ends up adding for the 2.1 million that you refer to. Same way for other crimes, statistics is based on mere presumptions of law and allegations. Not on convictions. STOP PROPOGATING FEMINIST THEORY OF FEMALE VICTIMHOOD. IF I START REFERRING TO THE WAY MEN SUFFER DUE TO THE OPPRESSIVE SYSTEM, YOU WOULD HAVE IT! YES, MEN NEED TO BE SYMPATHISED FOR IT WAS THEY WHO PROTECTED AND PROVIDED WOMEN FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS WHEN THERE WERE NO MACHINES AND THREAT FROM ANIMALS AND NATURE WAS INSURMOUNTABLE. YOU CANNOT TAKE A RIDE ON MEN TO SAIL THROUGH TROUBLED WATERS AND THEN KICK THEM AFTER YOU HAVE REACHED THE DESTINATION.
”Wayne is wrong, your mentality has NOT evolved at all in the past million years, you are just as savage as the day you crawled out of the primordial ooze!”——————————-
Yes women alone have changed their mentality. They were quite happy to have men lead them in the dangerous jungles and never spoke about equality and now, over time, they want to kick men! Yes, it is the same savage men who invented the Internet, telephone, cars, planes, robots, rockets and it is the same brute men who protected women from nature and its danger. You seem to have no qualms about using brute men when it helps you, eh! Lastly, the most dangerous people on earth are not the brute people and rough people. The most dangerous people are the one who indulge in sweet talk, have a 100 watt smile on their faces and then cheat the other person of billions! A white collared cheat is much more dangerous than a dacoit who sneaks in at night and women are as much capable of committing white collared crimes and sweet talk as men are!
”so 3 thousand suicides by husbands compared to 2.1 million deaths of females by abortion, infanticide, honor killings, dowry killings, abuse, neglect etc. Women are being bought, sold, traded, raped, gang raped, beaten, forced to have abortions, forced into marriage, forced to have babies before they are old enough and dying from it, forced to have too many babies and shortening their lifespans because of it, and the police will not lift a finger to stop it, but we are supposed to feel sorry for men?”——————————————-
Its suicides of married men alone that Prassoon is referring to. Further, the actual casualty of men due to work conditions, wars, rescue and relief operations, and accidents is even larger. The statistics of 2.1 million is absolutely bunk and is based on false collection of data. Every death of a married lady within 7 years of marriage is automatically taken as a dowry death. That ends up adding for the 2.1 million that you refer to. Same way for other crimes, statistics is based on mere presumptions of law and allegations. Not on convictions. STOP PROPOGATING FEMINIST THEORY OF FEMALE VICTIMHOOD. IF I START REFERRING TO THE WAY MEN SUFFER DUE TO THE OPPRESSIVE SYSTEM, YOU WOULD HAVE IT! YES, MEN NEED TO BE SYMPATHISED FOR IT WAS THEY WHO PROTECTED AND PROVIDED WOMEN FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS WHEN THERE WERE NO MACHINES AND THREAT FROM ANIMALS AND NATURE WAS INSURMOUNTABLE. YOU CANNOT TAKE A RIDE ON MEN TO SAIL THROUGH TROUBLED WATERS AND THEN KICK THEM AFTER YOU HAVE REACHED THE DESTINATION.
”Wayne is wrong, your mentality has NOT evolved at all in the past million years, you are just as savage as the day you crawled out of the primordial ooze!”——————————-
Yes women alone have changed their mentality. They were quite happy to have men lead them in the dangerous jungles and never spoke about equality and now, over time, they want to kick men! Yes, it is the same savage men who invented the Internet, telephone, cars, planes, robots, rockets and it is the same brute men who protected women from nature and its danger. You seem to have no qualms about using brute men when it helps you, eh! Lastly, the most dangerous people on earth are not the brute people and rough people. The most dangerous people are the one who indulge in sweet talk, have a 100 watt smile on their faces and then cheat the other person of billions! A white collared cheat is much more dangerous than a dacoit who sneaks in at night and women are as much capable of committing white collared crimes and sweet talk as men are!
(Local Perspectives)
”i never had any excuse, i just want to make you retard understand that.. now you can replace that with indian men.. there are a lot of age old indian men!!!”
DUH! No joke there would be nothing left but a lot of old Indian men when so many females have been disposed of! The women don’t get the chance to live into old age.
DUH! No joke there would be nothing left but a lot of old Indian men when so many females have been disposed of! The women don’t get the chance to live into old age.
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya and Mouli,
Thanks for taking up cudgels and telling off these ”Anti-Feminists”Brigade.
I fail to understand one thing whenever there are rumblings that some advantage should be given to anyone espcially women double the number will stand up against that move.
I have been shouting myself hoarse that there are many,many deprived females who will benefit from women reservation if implemented honestly.
Men expect females to do everything,in India when you marry you marry the whole family and you have to take care of them as if they are your own where as the family girl leaves behind becomes her second family. Their problems take a backseat. Any female failing in her duty is ”punished”suitably
To make our men realise that females are not second grade citizens,change is necessary at the grass root level.Even an uneducated male should be able to realise the worth of his wife and his daughters.If this reservation changes the mindset of even a micro segment it is worth it and by the way there are always two sides of the coin.There are advantages and disadvantages be firm enough to weed out the disadvantages that will be your true victory.
Thanks for taking up cudgels and telling off these ”Anti-Feminists”Brigade.
I fail to understand one thing whenever there are rumblings that some advantage should be given to anyone espcially women double the number will stand up against that move.
I have been shouting myself hoarse that there are many,many deprived females who will benefit from women reservation if implemented honestly.
Men expect females to do everything,in India when you marry you marry the whole family and you have to take care of them as if they are your own where as the family girl leaves behind becomes her second family. Their problems take a backseat. Any female failing in her duty is ”punished”suitably
To make our men realise that females are not second grade citizens,change is necessary at the grass root level.Even an uneducated male should be able to realise the worth of his wife and his daughters.If this reservation changes the mindset of even a micro segment it is worth it and by the way there are always two sides of the coin.There are advantages and disadvantages be firm enough to weed out the disadvantages that will be your true victory.
(Local Perspectives)
@Feminist Veena,
In an equal society, women cannot expect any advantages. Period. If you can show me disadvantaged women, I can show you disadvantaged men as well. How about reservation for them? By the way, those disadvantaged women will never contest an election. Those who contest elections are people like you who are the privileged women who whip up sentiments of women and female victimhood and make the killing to storm parliament! Your statements of wives being expected is one-sided. I can show you millions of cases where husbands are tortured by their wives, emotionally, financially and physically. On the contrary, female expect men to support them, protect them, pay alimony to them even if they are earning more than the husbands. During any major crisis, it is men and men alone who protect society. In the Mumbai terror operations and the Kargil war, not a single woman soldier died. 94% of all deaths of people in wars, operations, in the course of work are of men. So, you cannot tell me that women alone are expected to do everything.
In an equal society, women cannot expect any advantages. Period. If you can show me disadvantaged women, I can show you disadvantaged men as well. How about reservation for them? By the way, those disadvantaged women will never contest an election. Those who contest elections are people like you who are the privileged women who whip up sentiments of women and female victimhood and make the killing to storm parliament! Your statements of wives being expected is one-sided. I can show you millions of cases where husbands are tortured by their wives, emotionally, financially and physically. On the contrary, female expect men to support them, protect them, pay alimony to them even if they are earning more than the husbands. During any major crisis, it is men and men alone who protect society. In the Mumbai terror operations and the Kargil war, not a single woman soldier died. 94% of all deaths of people in wars, operations, in the course of work are of men. So, you cannot tell me that women alone are expected to do everything.
(Local Perspectives)
Yes veena, it is a long hard road to get men to give up that lord and master complex they have enjoyed for so long.
Here, when you get married, both sets of parents as well as all the brothers and sisters and friends help the couple out. That way no 1 person is burdened will all the costs. Daughters inherit the same as sons, so there is no reason help one and not the other. Most men are very involved in their children’s lives, from changing diapers, to driving them to school, to helping fix the plumbing after the kid is married. Newspapers never write stories about this, they only write about the bad ones.
There are many truly good men out there and they have the compassion and security in their manhood not to be threatened by the advancement of women. It will be the same there with a little time and patience.
Don’t give up, don’t feel alone, all the women of the world are rooting for you and cheering you on. :)
Here, when you get married, both sets of parents as well as all the brothers and sisters and friends help the couple out. That way no 1 person is burdened will all the costs. Daughters inherit the same as sons, so there is no reason help one and not the other. Most men are very involved in their children’s lives, from changing diapers, to driving them to school, to helping fix the plumbing after the kid is married. Newspapers never write stories about this, they only write about the bad ones.
There are many truly good men out there and they have the compassion and security in their manhood not to be threatened by the advancement of women. It will be the same there with a little time and patience.
Don’t give up, don’t feel alone, all the women of the world are rooting for you and cheering you on. :)
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya and Mouli,
Thanks for taking up cudgels and telling off these ”Anti-Feminists”Brigade.
I fail to understand one thing whenever there are rumblings that some advantage should be given to anyone espcially women double the number will stand up against that move.
I have been shouting myself hoarse that there are many,many deprived females who will benefit from women reservation if implemented honestly.
Men expect females to do everything,in India when you marry you marry the whole family and you have to take care of them as if they are your own where as the family girl leaves behind becomes her second family. Their problems take a backseat. Any female failing in her duty is ”punished”suitably
To make our men realise that females are not second grade citizens,change is necessary at the grass root level.Even an uneducated male should be able to realise the worth of his wife and his daughters.If this reservation changes the mindset of even a micro segment it is worth it and by the way there are always two sides of the coin.There are advantages and disadvantages be firm enough to weed out the disadvantages that will be your true victory.
Thanks for taking up cudgels and telling off these ”Anti-Feminists”Brigade.
I fail to understand one thing whenever there are rumblings that some advantage should be given to anyone espcially women double the number will stand up against that move.
I have been shouting myself hoarse that there are many,many deprived females who will benefit from women reservation if implemented honestly.
Men expect females to do everything,in India when you marry you marry the whole family and you have to take care of them as if they are your own where as the family girl leaves behind becomes her second family. Their problems take a backseat. Any female failing in her duty is ”punished”suitably
To make our men realise that females are not second grade citizens,change is necessary at the grass root level.Even an uneducated male should be able to realise the worth of his wife and his daughters.If this reservation changes the mindset of even a micro segment it is worth it and by the way there are always two sides of the coin.There are advantages and disadvantages be firm enough to weed out the disadvantages that will be your true victory.
(Local Perspectives)
@Feminist Veena,
In an equal society, women cannot expect any advantages. Period. If you can show me disadvantaged women, I can show you disadvantaged men as well. How about reservation for them? By the way, those disadvantaged women will never contest an election. Those who contest elections are people like you who are the privileged women who whip up sentiments of women and female victimhood and make the killing to storm parliament! Your statements of wives being expected is one-sided. I can show you millions of cases where husbands are tortured by their wives, emotionally, financially and physically. On the contrary, female expect men to support them, protect them, pay alimony to them even if they are earning more than the husbands. During any major crisis, it is men and men alone who protect society. In the Mumbai terror operations and the Kargil war, not a single woman soldier died. 94% of all deaths of people in wars, operations, in the course of work are of men. So, you cannot tell me that women alone are expected to do everything.
In an equal society, women cannot expect any advantages. Period. If you can show me disadvantaged women, I can show you disadvantaged men as well. How about reservation for them? By the way, those disadvantaged women will never contest an election. Those who contest elections are people like you who are the privileged women who whip up sentiments of women and female victimhood and make the killing to storm parliament! Your statements of wives being expected is one-sided. I can show you millions of cases where husbands are tortured by their wives, emotionally, financially and physically. On the contrary, female expect men to support them, protect them, pay alimony to them even if they are earning more than the husbands. During any major crisis, it is men and men alone who protect society. In the Mumbai terror operations and the Kargil war, not a single woman soldier died. 94% of all deaths of people in wars, operations, in the course of work are of men. So, you cannot tell me that women alone are expected to do everything.
(Local Perspectives)
Its surprising finally to meet someone who share my views so completely even though she is so many miles away.I do have spent some really tormented moments thinking of the injustice that is being done to women everyday n no one,not the politicians,the police,the common people are bothered in the least.The politicians or the so called great people of our country give big speeches come woman’s day on how much our country has done as far as women’s empowerment is concerned.Trust me all this just a farce.I dont know whether u have heard of the mangalore pub incident,well then its needless to say that our country has got the sickest attitude towards women.I saw an interview of a mangalore pub victim who said that the Ram Sena members in the name of evacuating the pub molested then ,tugged at their skirts n pulled them by their hair.Infact some political parties undercover promote female foeticide.I have read stories the leadrs of the religious parties the sadhus or the priests the supposed Mahatmas who have sexually assaulted women staying in their ashram or unsuspecting devotees.The stories of foreigners getting sexually assaulted by their guides,drivers even roomattendants is not uncommon n the reason the people offer r absolutely annoying-inappropriate dressing.HAH!What an excuse for commiting such a heinous crime as if girls who are properly dressed donot get raped or molested.Most of the men in our country r literally mentally unhealthy.For them its just a few moments of fun toying with a girl’s body as if she is nothing but a sex object but to that girl no need to say probably its probably worse than death.N the most frustrating part is that these devils slip through the clutches of the law easily without any punishment,they get bail.It sets my head on fire to see such injustice,even if justice b done the experience she goes through is irreversible,nothing can erase those scars.In many cases women who go to the police station to launch a complaint are turned down by the police themselves n in many cases it is seen that the police themselves r the offenders.If the upholders of law turn out to be its abusers who will the girls turn to for justice???Even more difficult to bear r the stories of little girls being sexually assaulted n the number of such cases r on the rise.I shudder to think what endurable pain the little one must have gone through.Stories of 3yr olds,5yr olds,preteen girls assaulted by their neighbours even family members n teachers appear almost everyday in the newspapers.These girls’ life wrecked for ever n to that man its just a few minutes of pleasure.In most cases these girls are killed b the rapists to hide evidence of their dirty work.Even if they were alive I doubt whether they will be able to give any witness so these guys escape without any form of punishment.It runs shivers down my spine that such psychopaths r running free in the society no one knows who their next victim will be.It could be me,it could be afriend of mine,my cousin.The girls here generally avoid going in the dark considering it unsafe but I doubt whether daylight can act much as a protector.If they r counting on the local people to come forward for help they r definitely wrong.I read a story a few days ago in Times of India about a girl being dragged to a train in front of aplatform full of people n nonone came forward to interfere.Last year there was a story of how a model was molested in full public view by a mob n the crowd stood there as mere spectators.Many girls have to be out in the dark for tutions,evening colleges,jobs that is unavoidable we simply cant sit at home in fear.It is the duty of the politicians,the police to ensure safety for the girls on the roads but as I said before inspite of being the authority they are hardly reliable.When last year a girl was dragged out of her car n murdered while she was returning from her job late in the evening Sheila Dikshit told the media that it was her fault that she was out in the dark.Delhi the capital city of our country is the largest cauldron of crime n the police have so far been unable to reduce the esalating crime rate.Seeing all this I cant help feelinf quite hopeless about the condition of women here.I feel the only way out is to educate these men to see women as individuals with a heart and a mind not just a beautiful plaything.But I really dont know how that can be done coz its not just a few men that I am talking about changing but its a billion people with such mentality ingrained in them through generations.N the next step should be strict implementation of laws n lifesentence for such crimes because for the girl who survives such a nightmarish experience it is a lifelong experience of trauma.
(Local Perspectives)
This looks like a template that most feminazis use LOL. I’m not promoting perverts neither am i justifying those bad deeds. But thats just one side of the coin. There are a rapidly increasing big number of unscrupulous women who abuse the judicial system, falsely accusing rape and misuse dowry laws to cater their ulterior motives. The TSSI case is the latest of its kind... its better not talk about dowry laws.. the rampant abuse has made the word dowry itself bogus. Supreme court and even the women president has contemned this, but still there are some people who try to sell the same template in order to get govt grant and huge sum from UNIFEM/UN.
(Global Perspectives)
@Mouli,
You obviously are a man-hater and have been blued to the feminist media too much and take media created images of men and women on face value. You have made a serious allegation that Indian men are mentally sick. I strongly condemn it! I would say Indian women are afflicted by the feminist virus and are sick to the core! If Indian men are mentally sick, don’t forget that you are born out of a mentally sick father and probably have mentally sick brothers. It is the same mental sickness that makes men struggle for women to give them comfort. It is the same sickness due to which men are dying like dogs at the border. Your reference to PUB incident in Mangalore again shows your faith in the media. Media showed only women being hit. More men were assaulted by the Ram Sainiks then women! Media covered it up and made it a men assaulting women propaganda. The feminist shit that is being propagated all over the media and which your response reflects is meant to sow the seed of hatred of men and ignite a gender war in society. THE FUNDAMENTAL THEORY OF FEMINISM IS THAT MEN ARE THE OPPRESSORS AND WOMEN ARE THE VICTIMS. NOBODY CARED A DAMN TO KNOW THAT MEN ARE ACTUALLY THE GREATEST VICTIMS OF THE SYSTEM. A young lady was killed in Delhi and it made headlines for a week. Do you know that 10 times more men are killed in Delhi alone and it does not even get a mention in the newspapers. Lastly, the REAL PSYCOPATHS ARE THE FEMINISTS WHO ARE CREATING HATRED BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN BY INSTIGATING AND IGNITING THE FEELING OF FEMALE VICTIMHOOD ON FALSE, EXAGGERATED, ONE-SIDED AND PERCEIVED THREAT TO WOMEN BY MEN. THE TRUTH IS OTHERWISE AND OPPOSITE. MEN ARE AS MUCH DISCRIMINATED BY SOCIETY AS WOMEN ARE!
You obviously are a man-hater and have been blued to the feminist media too much and take media created images of men and women on face value. You have made a serious allegation that Indian men are mentally sick. I strongly condemn it! I would say Indian women are afflicted by the feminist virus and are sick to the core! If Indian men are mentally sick, don’t forget that you are born out of a mentally sick father and probably have mentally sick brothers. It is the same mental sickness that makes men struggle for women to give them comfort. It is the same sickness due to which men are dying like dogs at the border. Your reference to PUB incident in Mangalore again shows your faith in the media. Media showed only women being hit. More men were assaulted by the Ram Sainiks then women! Media covered it up and made it a men assaulting women propaganda. The feminist shit that is being propagated all over the media and which your response reflects is meant to sow the seed of hatred of men and ignite a gender war in society. THE FUNDAMENTAL THEORY OF FEMINISM IS THAT MEN ARE THE OPPRESSORS AND WOMEN ARE THE VICTIMS. NOBODY CARED A DAMN TO KNOW THAT MEN ARE ACTUALLY THE GREATEST VICTIMS OF THE SYSTEM. A young lady was killed in Delhi and it made headlines for a week. Do you know that 10 times more men are killed in Delhi alone and it does not even get a mention in the newspapers. Lastly, the REAL PSYCOPATHS ARE THE FEMINISTS WHO ARE CREATING HATRED BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN BY INSTIGATING AND IGNITING THE FEELING OF FEMALE VICTIMHOOD ON FALSE, EXAGGERATED, ONE-SIDED AND PERCEIVED THREAT TO WOMEN BY MEN. THE TRUTH IS OTHERWISE AND OPPOSITE. MEN ARE AS MUCH DISCRIMINATED BY SOCIETY AS WOMEN ARE!
(Local Perspectives)
quoting Passoon ”There are a rapidly increasing big number of unscrupulous women who abuse the judicial system, falsely accusing rape and misuse dowry laws to cater their ulterior motives.”
See that is why women don’t bother to report crimes against them. When they finally get the courage to speak up....Men just say they are lying and abusing the system. They are supposed to suffer in silence.
See that is why women don’t bother to report crimes against them. When they finally get the courage to speak up....Men just say they are lying and abusing the system. They are supposed to suffer in silence.
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya,
Even the courts have acknowledged this misuse. Even the women’s commission has acknowledged this. What more do you want? It is not just men who are acknowledging this fact. Women’s commission and courts have said this. Even the woman President of India has acknowledged this.
Even the courts have acknowledged this misuse. Even the women’s commission has acknowledged this. What more do you want? It is not just men who are acknowledging this fact. Women’s commission and courts have said this. Even the woman President of India has acknowledged this.
(Local Perspectives)
These are some news reports about false cases:
Woman in dock for crying rape
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Citi es/Delhi/Woman_in_dock_for_crying_rape/a rticleshow/2749977.cms
Rape flip-flop puts girl in dock
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080226/j sp/nation/story_8948112.jsp
Rape victim attacked by accused’s kin
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Rape _victim_attacked_in_Delhi/articleshow/29 44071.cms
She Blamed Him. He Spent 11 Years in Jail
http://news.aol.com/article/rape-victim -convicted-man/375591
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly _story/0,3566,153969,00.html
Wednesday, April 20, 2005
By Wendy McElroy
Most statutory rape cases fall flat in court
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/ Most_statutory_rape_cases_fall_flat_in_c ourt/articleshow/4258271.cms
Women admits false rape complaint.
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-storie s/5172305
Woman in dock for crying rape
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Citi es/Delhi/Woman_in_dock_for_crying_rape/a rticleshow/2749977.cms
Rape flip-flop puts girl in dock
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080226/j sp/nation/story_8948112.jsp
Rape victim attacked by accused’s kin
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Rape _victim_attacked_in_Delhi/articleshow/29 44071.cms
She Blamed Him. He Spent 11 Years in Jail
http://news.aol.com/article/rape-victim -convicted-man/375591
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly _story/0,3566,153969,00.html
Wednesday, April 20, 2005
By Wendy McElroy
Most statutory rape cases fall flat in court
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/ Most_statutory_rape_cases_fall_flat_in_c ourt/articleshow/4258271.cms
Women admits false rape complaint.
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-storie s/5172305
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
Man commits suicide unable to bear harassment after being falsely booked under dowry act.
http://www.thehindu.com/2004/09/17/stories/2004091705030800.htm
Bitterness of wives leads to abuse of India’s anti-dowry laws
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2003/07/07/2003058417
False Dowry Cases Are Used to improve Crime against women statistics
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=6276
Women’s commission admits about misuse of laws: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050111/asp/nation/story_4233291.asp
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=6276
Man commits suicide unable to bear harassment after being falsely booked under dowry act.
http://www.thehindu.com/2004/09/17/stories/2004091705030800.htm
Bitterness of wives leads to abuse of India’s anti-dowry laws
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2003/07/07/2003058417
False Dowry Cases Are Used to improve Crime against women statistics
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=6276
Women’s commission admits about misuse of laws: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050111/asp/nation/story_4233291.asp
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=6276
(Local Perspectives)
pisson,
I’ld like to say something on behalf of Nuya that we ’ld all like to vomit provided we had u’r sweet face to puke on.
I’ld like to say something on behalf of Nuya that we ’ld all like to vomit provided we had u’r sweet face to puke on.
(Local Perspectives)
PISSON!!!!!
OMG! Mouli, do you realize you have said everything with that single word??
PISS - ON
God, Mouli you literally had me on the floor. You know, sometimes these type of things happen. Pisson, I mean Pisson ’Soordas’ literally lives his name.
He is very well-educated but speaks so much junk that his comment box resembles a roadside unisex toilet with loads of ammonia deposit and a stink that can kill unsuspected folks!
And... he exhibits the qualities of ’Soordas’ so well. He never sees the problems faced by women. I doubt sometimes if he came into this world through his mother’s womb or through some dark and constricted male hole. I’m dead sure his mother n sisters, if he has any, are sane enough to keep themselves at a safe distance from him. If not, then I pray for their physical n mental well-being.
It’s no wonder he feels so lonely n venomish. Poor chap, he needs to realize that he is going on the wrong path. I’ll pray for him too. Infact, we all should stop hating him n start praying that he regains his senses soon and return to the real world, which is not as ugly as this ugly, shit-speaking and stink-spreading males believe it to be.
Anyway, thanks for that PISSON thing. :-)
OMG! Mouli, do you realize you have said everything with that single word??
PISS - ON
God, Mouli you literally had me on the floor. You know, sometimes these type of things happen. Pisson, I mean Pisson ’Soordas’ literally lives his name.
He is very well-educated but speaks so much junk that his comment box resembles a roadside unisex toilet with loads of ammonia deposit and a stink that can kill unsuspected folks!
And... he exhibits the qualities of ’Soordas’ so well. He never sees the problems faced by women. I doubt sometimes if he came into this world through his mother’s womb or through some dark and constricted male hole. I’m dead sure his mother n sisters, if he has any, are sane enough to keep themselves at a safe distance from him. If not, then I pray for their physical n mental well-being.
It’s no wonder he feels so lonely n venomish. Poor chap, he needs to realize that he is going on the wrong path. I’ll pray for him too. Infact, we all should stop hating him n start praying that he regains his senses soon and return to the real world, which is not as ugly as this ugly, shit-speaking and stink-spreading males believe it to be.
Anyway, thanks for that PISSON thing. :-)
(Local Perspectives)
A little correction here, Mr. Pisson Soordas.
..which is not as ugly as this ugly, shit-speaking and stink-spreading male believes it to be.
Take it as personal, because no one speaks so much shit and spreads so much stink AS YOU DO!
..which is not as ugly as this ugly, shit-speaking and stink-spreading male believes it to be.
Take it as personal, because no one speaks so much shit and spreads so much stink AS YOU DO!
(Local Perspectives)
Grace!!!!
Feels so good to see you hon. Hope you are doing well in everything that you are doing at the moment and wish you do well in whatever you plan to do. :-)
I won’t say thanks to you because I take it as your love towards me, and not a compliment.
God bless you!
Feels so good to see you hon. Hope you are doing well in everything that you are doing at the moment and wish you do well in whatever you plan to do. :-)
I won’t say thanks to you because I take it as your love towards me, and not a compliment.
God bless you!
(Local Perspectives)
Thanks for converting this opportunity to increase your lifespan and health by having a good laugh.
I wish God gives me more opportunities to make you laugh.
I wish God gives me more opportunities to make you laugh.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mouli,
You are vomitting all over the society, the media with your feminist hate propaganda which are also in the form of fixed templates. You can puke on youself now.
You are vomitting all over the society, the media with your feminist hate propaganda which are also in the form of fixed templates. You can puke on youself now.
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez,
Stop puking out the same vomit that feminazis are throwing up all over. Get a life! Don’t have to stoop to this extent to please women to quench your hunger. GET A LIFE!
Stop puking out the same vomit that feminazis are throwing up all over. Get a life! Don’t have to stoop to this extent to please women to quench your hunger. GET A LIFE!
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez,
Your name reminds me of Aneez Ibrahim, a notorious gangster! Your dirty talk about shit and things like that makes me wonder whether you are his software clone....while the hardware guy is out there shitting around, you are doing your part of the job here on instablogs spoiling the atmosphere.
Your name reminds me of Aneez Ibrahim, a notorious gangster! Your dirty talk about shit and things like that makes me wonder whether you are his software clone....while the hardware guy is out there shitting around, you are doing your part of the job here on instablogs spoiling the atmosphere.
(Local Perspectives)
@ Rohan
Thanks a lot for making the atmosphere light by your comments. :-)
I take your comments as a pill to chill, they are quite entertaining because they are generally devoid of any sense but show your IQ, that’s little less than a kindergarten kid. :-)
Moreover, thanks for the comparison. FYI, my grand father’s name was Dawood. :-)
And one more thing, you can use the same ’PISSON’ ID to reply to comments addressed to ’PISSON’. No need to use this this ID (ROHAN D). :-)
Do a soul search, ask yourself some questions and you will know who is spoiling the atmosphere. If we do a survey here on Instablogs, 99% will vote you out of this platform. The remaining 1% include your 5 fake IDs and some born losers.
GET A LIFE YOU MORON...AND STOP SPREADING THE STINK USING 5 MOUTHS... USE ONE ID... BE A MAN... THEN TALK ABOUT MEN’S RIGHT.... START WITH YOUR MNOM N DAD AND U WILL SEE THAT YOUR DAD IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT N YOUR MOM IS NOT ALWAYS WRONG!!!
AND... NO NEED TO REPLY TO THIS COMMENT. YOU ARE WAY TO BELOW MY LEVEL TO TRY SPEAKING TO ME.
FIRST, INCREASE YOUR MENTAL LEVEL..THEN THINK ABOUT COUNTERING MY OPINIONS... GO TO YOUR GAY GROUP AND SCRATCH THEIR A**ES..
Did I offend you??
If yes, then go to your nearest common toilet and drown yourself in the shitty hole. Ohh but, you won’t die in that hole...BECAUSE YOU YOURSELF ARE A S*IT HOLE THAT HAS GOT MORE STINK THAN THE WHOLE OF STINK COLLECTED TOGETHER FROM ALL THE UNISEX TOILETS!!!
BTW, did I really offend you??
Thanks a lot for making the atmosphere light by your comments. :-)
I take your comments as a pill to chill, they are quite entertaining because they are generally devoid of any sense but show your IQ, that’s little less than a kindergarten kid. :-)
Moreover, thanks for the comparison. FYI, my grand father’s name was Dawood. :-)
And one more thing, you can use the same ’PISSON’ ID to reply to comments addressed to ’PISSON’. No need to use this this ID (ROHAN D). :-)
Do a soul search, ask yourself some questions and you will know who is spoiling the atmosphere. If we do a survey here on Instablogs, 99% will vote you out of this platform. The remaining 1% include your 5 fake IDs and some born losers.
GET A LIFE YOU MORON...AND STOP SPREADING THE STINK USING 5 MOUTHS... USE ONE ID... BE A MAN... THEN TALK ABOUT MEN’S RIGHT.... START WITH YOUR MNOM N DAD AND U WILL SEE THAT YOUR DAD IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT N YOUR MOM IS NOT ALWAYS WRONG!!!
AND... NO NEED TO REPLY TO THIS COMMENT. YOU ARE WAY TO BELOW MY LEVEL TO TRY SPEAKING TO ME.
FIRST, INCREASE YOUR MENTAL LEVEL..THEN THINK ABOUT COUNTERING MY OPINIONS... GO TO YOUR GAY GROUP AND SCRATCH THEIR A**ES..
Did I offend you??
If yes, then go to your nearest common toilet and drown yourself in the shitty hole. Ohh but, you won’t die in that hole...BECAUSE YOU YOURSELF ARE A S*IT HOLE THAT HAS GOT MORE STINK THAN THE WHOLE OF STINK COLLECTED TOGETHER FROM ALL THE UNISEX TOILETS!!!
BTW, did I really offend you??
(Local Perspectives)
Hahahaha, yea, thanks for the laugh, Pisson and Rawhand are sooooooooooo depressing!
(Global Perspectives)
Aneez, I notice that Rohan objects to you using language that he throws around regularly just because you are a woman. I knew he didn’t believe in equality! You go girl! Hahhahaha!
(Global Perspectives)
@Aneez Ibrahim,
Not even worth reading your reply. You are more into personal attacks than anything worth my time. If you cannot defend the subject matter, why do want to enter the scene? Look after your instablogs work that you are into than getting into personal shit. GET A LIFE! BE A MAN!
Not even worth reading your reply. You are more into personal attacks than anything worth my time. If you cannot defend the subject matter, why do want to enter the scene? Look after your instablogs work that you are into than getting into personal shit. GET A LIFE! BE A MAN!
(Local Perspectives)
Look at the whole debate:
Only two men against the women reservation. There has to be someone from the Mulayam and the Shard brigade. This is where they get their votes from, afterall.
Guys please be reasonable with them. Its not their fault. Their mind is programmed to think limited.
Only two men against the women reservation. There has to be someone from the Mulayam and the Shard brigade. This is where they get their votes from, afterall.
Guys please be reasonable with them. Its not their fault. Their mind is programmed to think limited.
(Local Perspectives)
@Gaurav,
Two things. 1. This is not a reflection of how people think otherwise. 2. Political correctness is not correctness in itself. Yes, men’s rights are politically incorrect. Doesn’t mean it is not correct. Women’s rights was politically incorrect 100 years back. SO, DO YOU STAND FOR CORRECTNESS OR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?
Two things. 1. This is not a reflection of how people think otherwise. 2. Political correctness is not correctness in itself. Yes, men’s rights are politically incorrect. Doesn’t mean it is not correct. Women’s rights was politically incorrect 100 years back. SO, DO YOU STAND FOR CORRECTNESS OR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez,
Don’t get cornered and frustrated so easily that you need to attack people personally. Your replies indicate the background that you come from. Behave like a man - a gentle man and earn your place here.
Don’t get cornered and frustrated so easily that you need to attack people personally. Your replies indicate the background that you come from. Behave like a man - a gentle man and earn your place here.
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez....toooo goooood!! Kudos! I can see that ur humor is intact :)loved it! Am still rolling on the floor ;-D!!
(Local Perspectives)
Reshmi!
Stop before PISSON issues a fatwa against you for rolling too much on the floor!
He will cite some stupid reason that the male folks in your family will be at risk because of your ’rolling on the floor’
I’m not joking. He can come up with some allegation if he wants. He is a gifted guy.
Stop before PISSON issues a fatwa against you for rolling too much on the floor!
He will cite some stupid reason that the male folks in your family will be at risk because of your ’rolling on the floor’
I’m not joking. He can come up with some allegation if he wants. He is a gifted guy.
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez,
When you are trapped and cannot argue, you start distracting by making personal attacks. Don’t get so frustrated. There is a lot more on this feminist shit and the expose.
When you are trapped and cannot argue, you start distracting by making personal attacks. Don’t get so frustrated. There is a lot more on this feminist shit and the expose.
(Local Perspectives)
Luv you Rohan. :-)
I love it when you n your gay friends go frustrated bcoz of my comments. I get immense pleasure when I see you whining. Carry on... :-)
I love it when you n your gay friends go frustrated bcoz of my comments. I get immense pleasure when I see you whining. Carry on... :-)
(Local Perspectives)
Whoa,atta boy,at last some sanity is coming back in my write-up.Every thing I write about some social issue it turns into a battlefield which has two very very vocal anti feminist clamouring for attention and the main issue just gets sidelined.They refuse to see the shades of grey in their black and white world.
All humans have their weak moments but the crime committted by one woman lets loose a tirade against the whole womenkind .
Thanks once again.
All humans have their weak moments but the crime committted by one woman lets loose a tirade against the whole womenkind .
Thanks once again.
(Local Perspectives)
@Veena,
The real issue is about women’s pamperment and we men will attack pamperment of women. It is you feminists who cannot see shades of grey and hence ask for reservation on the pretext of all women being suppressed and all men being the privileged gender. And with men like Aneez in tow, what more can be expected except pervert ideologies and misuse of equality? Lastly, when a woman commits a crime, she is pardoned by the society simply because of her gender. Men who commit crimes, unless they are powerful, are arrested and without any investigation.
The real issue is about women’s pamperment and we men will attack pamperment of women. It is you feminists who cannot see shades of grey and hence ask for reservation on the pretext of all women being suppressed and all men being the privileged gender. And with men like Aneez in tow, what more can be expected except pervert ideologies and misuse of equality? Lastly, when a woman commits a crime, she is pardoned by the society simply because of her gender. Men who commit crimes, unless they are powerful, are arrested and without any investigation.
(Local Perspectives)
ANEEZ r u really a guy or a girl using a guy name becoz its hard to believe such sensible words coming from a guy specially after reading the comments(absolute nonsense) by Rohan n Pisson.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mouli,
I can assume you that only guys can say such things to other guys to please women to get what they want. AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT FACE IT HIMSELF, HE IS FINE IF OTHER MEN FACE TORTURE BY WOMEN. Lady, you had no answer to the questions, points and data that Prassoon and myself had given. You cannot accept the truth and that it has two sides. Feminism is plain nonsense because it believes that only women are discriminated.
I can assume you that only guys can say such things to other guys to please women to get what they want. AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT FACE IT HIMSELF, HE IS FINE IF OTHER MEN FACE TORTURE BY WOMEN. Lady, you had no answer to the questions, points and data that Prassoon and myself had given. You cannot accept the truth and that it has two sides. Feminism is plain nonsense because it believes that only women are discriminated.
(Local Perspectives)
Mouli!
Before coming into this world, I stayed for nine months in my mother’s womb...and I never forget this thing.
I hope this explains my behavior. :-)
Before coming into this world, I stayed for nine months in my mother’s womb...and I never forget this thing.
I hope this explains my behavior. :-)
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez.
But you forgot that you were brought into this world by your father and you forgot the contributions that he made. You forgot that your mother had a father who struggled to bring her up. Nothing is one-sided Aneez Ibrahim.
But you forgot that you were brought into this world by your father and you forgot the contributions that he made. You forgot that your mother had a father who struggled to bring her up. Nothing is one-sided Aneez Ibrahim.
(Local Perspectives)
@ ROHAN D
It is one-sided, indeed... for you because it appears from your talks.
I had a mother and a father, who brought me into this world, but the way you disrespect women, it seems no female was involved in your conception or birth. :-)
I congratulate your father for this lone feat pulled up successfully. I guess you are getting my point and you can picture how (and from where) you came into this world. :-)
By the way, your infatuation for the D-gang is quite high... and it shines as an initial ’D’ after your name. :-)
You see, even I’m a master in making correlations.
It is one-sided, indeed... for you because it appears from your talks.
I had a mother and a father, who brought me into this world, but the way you disrespect women, it seems no female was involved in your conception or birth. :-)
I congratulate your father for this lone feat pulled up successfully. I guess you are getting my point and you can picture how (and from where) you came into this world. :-)
By the way, your infatuation for the D-gang is quite high... and it shines as an initial ’D’ after your name. :-)
You see, even I’m a master in making correlations.
(Local Perspectives)
@Aneez,
”I had a mother and a father, who brought me into this world, but the way you disrespect women, it seems no female was involved in your conception or birth. :-)”——————————-
Only an idiot cannot distinguish between fighting feminists and fighting women. I am fighting feminists and not women!
I understand why you are into unnecessary arguments. Control you dick! Don’t get so desperate!
”I had a mother and a father, who brought me into this world, but the way you disrespect women, it seems no female was involved in your conception or birth. :-)”——————————-
Only an idiot cannot distinguish between fighting feminists and fighting women. I am fighting feminists and not women!
I understand why you are into unnecessary arguments. Control you dick! Don’t get so desperate!
(Local Perspectives)
@ROHANDI
Did you figure out from where you jumped into this world?? Or was the hole too constricted n dark to spare some sense in your head??
I suspect the second one :-)
God bless you. Opt for a therapy, you will get better if God wills.
Poor boy!!
Did you figure out from where you jumped into this world?? Or was the hole too constricted n dark to spare some sense in your head??
I suspect the second one :-)
God bless you. Opt for a therapy, you will get better if God wills.
Poor boy!!
(Local Perspectives)
Incase u dont know this let me gv u little bio info that the girls donot get pregnant by themselves if they are getting pregnant men do have a hand in it.But its just a natural advantage u have over girls is that u wont have to suffer from the consequence of this.if teenage sex is an offence the boys are equally guilty but since they donot hv to bear the brunt of it they unlike women can easily wash their hands of the whole matter.U guys r only interested in having fun so when u hear ur gfs becoming pregnant u cowardly turn ur back to her since u dont want to take responsibility of the matter so even if she is serious about the relationship she hv no other option left bcoz single motherhood is highly scandalous in our society.And as far as wearing sexy clothes is concerned dont blame the girls,guys simply cant control themselves seeing beautiful girls n its their fault.Anyways I am really wasting my time trying to make 2 narrowminded fools see the point.Just wanna ask one thing -what is it that made u too such womenhaters were u both publicly ditched by ur gfs or refused s.. by them?I feel so sorry for both of u.I hope there is some girl out there who is blind dumb n deaf n has suffered serious mental injury who will fall for u.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mouli,
Yes, men have a hand in pregnancy. But why do women get into relationships in teens knowing fully well that they get pregnant? If men have an advantage over women, women have many more advantages over men. The act of sex is mutual. Teenage abortions are also common nowadays. Hence you cannot blame men for abortions. Most of the abortions happen because of sex against the wishes of the families. Most girls indulge in sex for fun and not necessarily for long-term relationships. Don’t women enjoy sex? Don’t they have sexual needs like men? Then why are men blamed for pregnancies?
Yes, men have a hand in pregnancy. But why do women get into relationships in teens knowing fully well that they get pregnant? If men have an advantage over women, women have many more advantages over men. The act of sex is mutual. Teenage abortions are also common nowadays. Hence you cannot blame men for abortions. Most of the abortions happen because of sex against the wishes of the families. Most girls indulge in sex for fun and not necessarily for long-term relationships. Don’t women enjoy sex? Don’t they have sexual needs like men? Then why are men blamed for pregnancies?
(Local Perspectives)
Mouli,
”And as far as wearing sexy clothes is concerned dont blame the girls,guys simply cant control themselves seeing beautiful girls n its their fault.”————————————-
You are obviously against responsible dressing of women. You want women to show their asses, boobs and expect men to keep quiet? Are men human beings or some super-human beings that they have to tolerate everything that women do and yet not complain about it? I am NOT defending rape or molestation. I am advocating a dress code for all, including women. Freedom ends where the other’s freedom begins. Women walking in semi-nude or revealing clothes is obviously causing problems for men. That is an encroachment on men’s rights. Women have the freedom to walk around but not at the cost of men! Same applies to men. Women have no right to wear sexy clothes unless it is in private because it is an encroachment on men’s rights. Causing unwarranted sexual arousal in men is not the rights of women. Period.
”Anyways I am really wasting my time trying to make 2 narrowminded fools see the point.Just wanna ask one thing -what is it that made u too such womenhaters were u both publicly ditched by ur gfs or refused s.. by them?I feel so sorry for both of u.I hope there is some girl out there who is blind dumb n deaf n has suffered serious mental injury who will fall for u.”—————————–You are not just a fool but a retard! For you, freedom for women is absolute and without responsibilities. You are a man-hater as your responses obviously point to that. You have contempt for men and have called Indian men psychos forgetting the fact that you are alive because of a psycho man. And you are using the Internet, phone, cars, bikes etc all because of psycho men. STOP USING MEN’S CREATIONS. ALL MEN ARE PSYCHOS SO WHY USE MEN’S CREATIONS? Lastly, you have asked a personal question. I don’t need to answer that but still I will. I had wonderful girl friends in my life. I am into a relationship currently and my gf shares my views. But I advice you to keep off men as you believe they are psychos. You are also a man-hater and believe in female superiority. Its advisable to turn to your own gender in such a situation.
”And as far as wearing sexy clothes is concerned dont blame the girls,guys simply cant control themselves seeing beautiful girls n its their fault.”————————————-
You are obviously against responsible dressing of women. You want women to show their asses, boobs and expect men to keep quiet? Are men human beings or some super-human beings that they have to tolerate everything that women do and yet not complain about it? I am NOT defending rape or molestation. I am advocating a dress code for all, including women. Freedom ends where the other’s freedom begins. Women walking in semi-nude or revealing clothes is obviously causing problems for men. That is an encroachment on men’s rights. Women have the freedom to walk around but not at the cost of men! Same applies to men. Women have no right to wear sexy clothes unless it is in private because it is an encroachment on men’s rights. Causing unwarranted sexual arousal in men is not the rights of women. Period.
”Anyways I am really wasting my time trying to make 2 narrowminded fools see the point.Just wanna ask one thing -what is it that made u too such womenhaters were u both publicly ditched by ur gfs or refused s.. by them?I feel so sorry for both of u.I hope there is some girl out there who is blind dumb n deaf n has suffered serious mental injury who will fall for u.”—————————–You are not just a fool but a retard! For you, freedom for women is absolute and without responsibilities. You are a man-hater as your responses obviously point to that. You have contempt for men and have called Indian men psychos forgetting the fact that you are alive because of a psycho man. And you are using the Internet, phone, cars, bikes etc all because of psycho men. STOP USING MEN’S CREATIONS. ALL MEN ARE PSYCHOS SO WHY USE MEN’S CREATIONS? Lastly, you have asked a personal question. I don’t need to answer that but still I will. I had wonderful girl friends in my life. I am into a relationship currently and my gf shares my views. But I advice you to keep off men as you believe they are psychos. You are also a man-hater and believe in female superiority. Its advisable to turn to your own gender in such a situation.
(Local Perspectives)
@ ROHAN D
Women have no right to wear sexy clothes unless it is in private because it is an encroachment on men’s rights. Causing unwarranted sexual arousal in men is not the rights of women. Period.
Encroachment on men’s rights???? which right? To mount on that female n start having sex in the middle of the road? or start wanking your tool with desire?
The way you speak about getting sexually aroused ...I’m dead sure your mom n sisters must be keeping themselves tightly covered when you are around because even an accidental flick of their ’aanchal’ or ’dupattas’ can generate ’sexual arousal’ in you.
KEEPING YOUR LIBIDO IN CONTROL IS YOUR DUTY... N NOT SOMEONE ELSE’S RESPONSIBILITY.
Shit man! You are shittier than I thought you were. DISGUSTING!!
Women have no right to wear sexy clothes unless it is in private because it is an encroachment on men’s rights. Causing unwarranted sexual arousal in men is not the rights of women. Period.
Encroachment on men’s rights???? which right? To mount on that female n start having sex in the middle of the road? or start wanking your tool with desire?
The way you speak about getting sexually aroused ...I’m dead sure your mom n sisters must be keeping themselves tightly covered when you are around because even an accidental flick of their ’aanchal’ or ’dupattas’ can generate ’sexual arousal’ in you.
KEEPING YOUR LIBIDO IN CONTROL IS YOUR DUTY... N NOT SOMEONE ELSE’S RESPONSIBILITY.
Shit man! You are shittier than I thought you were. DISGUSTING!!
(Local Perspectives)
Rolling on the floor laughing again! Rohan, or Pissoon or whatever, I am starting to see that they might be the same. Here I was thinking that there better be plenty of blind, cripple and crazy women around for all these woman haters, but there might only be need for 1....hahahahha!
I had assumed that Aneez was a girl only because I don’t know the differences in names..... If I got it wrong.... sorry Aneez.... you rock either way.
I had assumed that Aneez was a girl only because I don’t know the differences in names..... If I got it wrong.... sorry Aneez.... you rock either way.
(Global Perspectives)
@Aneez Ibrahim,
”Encroachment on men’s rights???? which right? To mount on that female n start having sex in the middle of the road? or start wanking your tool with desire?”————————————–
Definately! The right to NOT to get sexually aroused. Individual freedom ends where the others freedom begins. Nobody has the bloody right to walk naked on the road. This does not mean that rape or molestation is justified. This is merely the advocacy of responsible dressing - both for men and women. YOU SEEM TO BE ADVOCATING NUDITY.
”The way you speak about getting sexually aroused ...I’m dead sure your mom n sisters must be keeping themselves tightly covered when you are around because even an accidental flick of their ’aanchal’ or ’dupattas’ can generate ’sexual arousal’ in you.”———————————–
That’s your sole copyright. The advocates of nudity in the garb of freedom of women do it with ulterior motives. Nobody does that for charity.
”KEEPING YOUR LIBIDO IN CONTROL IS YOUR DUTY... N NOT SOMEONE ELSE’S RESPONSIBILITY.”
That is for you - the advocates of nudity on the road. Not for men who are straight forward in what they say. Nobody can happen without creating an environment condusive to it. You want people to keep their doors open at night in the name of individual freedom and then expect nothing to happen. You want people to keep open their doors at night for your own reasons. I want people to be sensible, reasonable and practical. Freedom comes with responsibilities. This is applicable to all areas of life and it applies to dressing as well - both for men and women.
”Shit man! You are shittier than I thought you were. DISGUSTING!!”———–
I AM NOT SURPRISED WHY FEMINIST MEN LIKE YOU ADVOCATE NUDITY IN THE GARB OF FREEDOM AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. NOT SURPRISING WHY OUT NATION IS SO CORRUPT AND SOCIAL VALUES HAVE DEGRADED. THE ADVOCATES OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM DIDN’T MEAN ABSOLUTE FREEDOM FOR ANYBODY. MAHATMA GANDHI HIMSELF SAID THAT FREEDOM IS A FAILURE IF PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAME. NOW WHO IS SHITTY HERE?
”Encroachment on men’s rights???? which right? To mount on that female n start having sex in the middle of the road? or start wanking your tool with desire?”————————————–
Definately! The right to NOT to get sexually aroused. Individual freedom ends where the others freedom begins. Nobody has the bloody right to walk naked on the road. This does not mean that rape or molestation is justified. This is merely the advocacy of responsible dressing - both for men and women. YOU SEEM TO BE ADVOCATING NUDITY.
”The way you speak about getting sexually aroused ...I’m dead sure your mom n sisters must be keeping themselves tightly covered when you are around because even an accidental flick of their ’aanchal’ or ’dupattas’ can generate ’sexual arousal’ in you.”———————————–
That’s your sole copyright. The advocates of nudity in the garb of freedom of women do it with ulterior motives. Nobody does that for charity.
”KEEPING YOUR LIBIDO IN CONTROL IS YOUR DUTY... N NOT SOMEONE ELSE’S RESPONSIBILITY.”
That is for you - the advocates of nudity on the road. Not for men who are straight forward in what they say. Nobody can happen without creating an environment condusive to it. You want people to keep their doors open at night in the name of individual freedom and then expect nothing to happen. You want people to keep open their doors at night for your own reasons. I want people to be sensible, reasonable and practical. Freedom comes with responsibilities. This is applicable to all areas of life and it applies to dressing as well - both for men and women.
”Shit man! You are shittier than I thought you were. DISGUSTING!!”———–
I AM NOT SURPRISED WHY FEMINIST MEN LIKE YOU ADVOCATE NUDITY IN THE GARB OF FREEDOM AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. NOT SURPRISING WHY OUT NATION IS SO CORRUPT AND SOCIAL VALUES HAVE DEGRADED. THE ADVOCATES OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM DIDN’T MEAN ABSOLUTE FREEDOM FOR ANYBODY. MAHATMA GANDHI HIMSELF SAID THAT FREEDOM IS A FAILURE IF PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAME. NOW WHO IS SHITTY HERE?
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
Myself or Prassoon don’t become women-haters just because we fight against political correctness and the tide of the times. We speak truth and have the guts to do it. I for one, know and understand that freedom comes with responsibility. There is no absolute freedom. Nudity is not freedom. Its encroachment of freedom of others. This applies equally for men and women. Freedom without responsibility is the death of freedom itself! Its a recipe for social chaos and anarchy.
Myself or Prassoon don’t become women-haters just because we fight against political correctness and the tide of the times. We speak truth and have the guts to do it. I for one, know and understand that freedom comes with responsibility. There is no absolute freedom. Nudity is not freedom. Its encroachment of freedom of others. This applies equally for men and women. Freedom without responsibility is the death of freedom itself! Its a recipe for social chaos and anarchy.
(Local Perspectives)
@ ROHAN D
First of all, thanks for the recognition conferred. ’Aneez Ibrahim’ sounds cool!! :-)
As for the rest of your comment, it was stinking too much, so I’m sorry I was unable to read it. I only managed to read the last line,
NOW WHO IS SHITTY HERE?
The answer is... OBVIOUSLY YOU!!!
No one has the will and capability to be more shittier than you!! :-)
Love you ROHAN DEEE. :-)
First of all, thanks for the recognition conferred. ’Aneez Ibrahim’ sounds cool!! :-)
As for the rest of your comment, it was stinking too much, so I’m sorry I was unable to read it. I only managed to read the last line,
NOW WHO IS SHITTY HERE?
The answer is... OBVIOUSLY YOU!!!
No one has the will and capability to be more shittier than you!! :-)
Love you ROHAN DEEE. :-)
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan.... grow the hell up! You have never seen a naked woman in your life...well not one that didn’t come printed on glossy paper!
You certainly never seen one in the street! The naked is all in your mind! You are undressing with your eyes. You are lewd, and that is not the responsibility of any woman.
You have repeatedly showed your admiration for the Taliban and their abuse of females. You think they are brave men because they beat and kill women in the streets and lock them in the house with the windows painted over. Any man who feels he has to control a woman is not a man but a bully.
You certainly never seen one in the street! The naked is all in your mind! You are undressing with your eyes. You are lewd, and that is not the responsibility of any woman.
You have repeatedly showed your admiration for the Taliban and their abuse of females. You think they are brave men because they beat and kill women in the streets and lock them in the house with the windows painted over. Any man who feels he has to control a woman is not a man but a bully.
(Global Perspectives)
@Aneez Ibrahim,
With so many of your clan roaming on the streets of Mumbai, enjoying the semi-nude dressing of some misled Mumbai girls, I am not surprised that you do not even want to answer my points. Obviously you cannot answer them. You have no defence and there can be no way you can defend it and yet have the sexual stimulation on the road. They are quite opposite in nature. Your intentions are well-understood.
With so many of your clan roaming on the streets of Mumbai, enjoying the semi-nude dressing of some misled Mumbai girls, I am not surprised that you do not even want to answer my points. Obviously you cannot answer them. You have no defence and there can be no way you can defend it and yet have the sexual stimulation on the road. They are quite opposite in nature. Your intentions are well-understood.
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
You and your shitty feminist brigade is the greatest enemy of civilization, misleading women and encouraging them to wear sexy clothes so that men get sexually aroused and there would be a disorder. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. YOU WANT RIGHTS WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITY. GROW UP! BE A RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUAL AND NOT A CRAZY STREET WOMAN.
You and your shitty feminist brigade is the greatest enemy of civilization, misleading women and encouraging them to wear sexy clothes so that men get sexually aroused and there would be a disorder. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. YOU WANT RIGHTS WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITY. GROW UP! BE A RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUAL AND NOT A CRAZY STREET WOMAN.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, it wouldn’t matter if they were wearing grain sacks over their heads, you would still be walking around with a stiffy. You are a pervert and see things that are not there!
How interesting it is? The people who oppose the caste based reservation by giving logic that they are against all kinds of reservation are supporting the women reservation. Why there are dual standards?