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Daughters are loving, understanding and caring, right? Wrong as everywhere here also there are exceptions. Daughters can be mean, selfish and greedy and they can take, take and take going to any extent to satisfy their greed.
Take the case of 72 year old Vijay Merchant of Mumbai blessed with two daughters and a son all grown ups and settled, he must not have felt so helpless when he lost his wife. But now he is forced to spend his nights on pavements or at the Mumbai Central Railway platform. Reason, well his darling daughter has thrown him out of his own house, a cosy room at the decreptic Radha Building at Girgaum.
The fatherly love which he showered on his daughter Harsha when she was left by her husband and giving her shelter seemed to have backfired. When he returned home after a two day visit to his son’s place he found his room white washed and all his belongings thrown out.His room was let out by his own daughter claiming that now she was the owner.
She also claimed that she had been looking after her Father for a long period now and it should be done by her other siblings His other daughter and son, well they seem to be least interested in the plight of their old father, no time for legal hassles you see, in fact the loving son suggested that his father should now shift to an Home for the Aged.
All this despite of the fact that Mr. Merchant is still working at a Travel Agency but for last two months his routine has been changed, instead of coming home he first works at the Agency and in the evening he does the rounds of Police Station in the hope that may be they could provide him some relief under the much touted new law Maintenance and Welfare of parents and Senior Citizens Act 2007, which not only put the onus of care of the elderly on their children but also seeks to protect their life and property.
There is no positive response from either the NGO and the Police. Maybe the Act was passed by the Maharashtra Government only in February so perhaps giving credit to the red tapism of the Indian Bureaucracy it failed to reach those officials who are responsible to take action.
Also why blame the red tapism it seems that the culture of only rights and no duties has been imbibed by the offsprings of this particular family.
Only Privileges with no strings attached seems to be the motto here
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Ketul
Jun 15 2009
Jamshedpur,
India
This is what happens when you give too much liberty to someone and stay ignorant when it comes to your own rights.
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(Local Perspectives)
Why is not police helping the old man? Why don't they punish such children? What will help to boost them to do the work that they are paid for each month?
(Local Perspectives)
This is really sad. People make much hue and cry over the women harassment but they hesitate to raise such issues. Even the so called NGOs that claim to be the saviors of human rights work half heartedly on such issues.
(Local Perspectives)
Exactly! Women are as evil as anybody else - men and elders. But women alone are privileged in this society and they alone get all the sympathy and empathy.
(Local Perspectives)
Aren’t sons supposed to take care of their parents when they get old? Isn’t that why so many people prefer to have boys than girls? Aren’t the girls supposed to take care of the husband’s family? Wasn’t that the reason for dowry?
What goes around, comes around, unless you know how he treated his kids, you can’t assume that he is not getting what he deserved.
What goes around, comes around, unless you know how he treated his kids, you can’t assume that he is not getting what he deserved.
(Global Perspectives)
Unfortunately, this is not the case here. No body bothers to see how the children were treated by their parents in the past. People pass negative judgments for the children who don't look after their parents. Who knows what kind of a father was he?
But here, its just one belief...if they are your biological mother and father you have to look after them...no one cares about the other side of the coin.
But here, its just one belief...if they are your biological mother and father you have to look after them...no one cares about the other side of the coin.
(Local Perspectives)
When the girl can live a happy life, I think the father must not have neglected her anywhere. And I don’t think dowry is taking place in that section of the society in Mumbai.
But, how come not any one of the siblings ready to take the father voluntarily? Something wrong with the old person?
But, how come not any one of the siblings ready to take the father voluntarily? Something wrong with the old person?
(Global Perspectives)
This is an equal society now. Dowry is banned. If you say that daughters are not supposed to take care of elders and only sons are supposed to, then you are actually supporting the dowry system. You cannot have it both ways. You need to stick to one instead of giving lame excuses for a crime committed by a woman. By the way, the lady has kicked her own father out of his own house. It is a crime by itself.
(Local Perspectives)
Gaurav,
I agree with you that one should look at all sides. But don’t you think society is biased when it comes to the opposite? I mean, when a woman has alleged that she was a victim of DV, you guys never look from the husband’s point of view and that this lady must be lying. So, before you blame others of being biased and not looking from another angle, look at yourself. How unbiased are you?
I agree with you that one should look at all sides. But don’t you think society is biased when it comes to the opposite? I mean, when a woman has alleged that she was a victim of DV, you guys never look from the husband’s point of view and that this lady must be lying. So, before you blame others of being biased and not looking from another angle, look at yourself. How unbiased are you?
(Local Perspectives)
@Gaurav,
Another point. Even if we assume that the father is not good, the daughter has no right to kick him out of his own house. There can be no defence for such an illegal act.
Another point. Even if we assume that the father is not good, the daughter has no right to kick him out of his own house. There can be no defence for such an illegal act.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan
Dowry is banned? What do you think by banning the dowry it has come to an end. The reality is that the dowry system prevails more in the urban areas where the people have paying capacity. People of rural areas imitate the urban. In the rural areas they don't have capacity to give so many items as dowry and here starts the problem.
Dowry is banned? What do you think by banning the dowry it has come to an end. The reality is that the dowry system prevails more in the urban areas where the people have paying capacity. People of rural areas imitate the urban. In the rural areas they don't have capacity to give so many items as dowry and here starts the problem.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan, do you recognize this symbol ”?”
It is a question mark, it is found at the end of a question not at the end of a statement.
You didn’t answer any of those questions. You are just ranting as usual.
It is a question mark, it is found at the end of a question not at the end of a statement.
You didn’t answer any of those questions. You are just ranting as usual.
(Global Perspectives)
Sukhbahar,
Just because some people violate the law, it does not justify the daughter kicking out the father. Nor does it imply that sons have to take responsibility for parents. Be clear about what is right and what is wrong. If you say that dowry menace is prevalent and hence sons should continue to take all responsibilities, and that daughters should not, you are indirectly supporting dowry. Illegal things keep happening the time. That does not mean that another illegal thing should happen because of that.
Just because some people violate the law, it does not justify the daughter kicking out the father. Nor does it imply that sons have to take responsibility for parents. Be clear about what is right and what is wrong. If you say that dowry menace is prevalent and hence sons should continue to take all responsibilities, and that daughters should not, you are indirectly supporting dowry. Illegal things keep happening the time. That does not mean that another illegal thing should happen because of that.
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
”You didn’t answer any of those questions. You are just ranting as usual.”————————–
You are such a typical feminist. You have answered all the questions yourself by asking them. Not that I support your answers.
And, I have given my answers already but your feminism has made you blind to see the truth.
”You didn’t answer any of those questions. You are just ranting as usual.”————————–
You are such a typical feminist. You have answered all the questions yourself by asking them. Not that I support your answers.
And, I have given my answers already but your feminism has made you blind to see the truth.
(Local Perspectives)
This old man can file a petition based on CrPC 125, no need to wait for a new act. CrPC 125 says any person leaving sufficient means are entitled to take care of their age old parents who are unable to maintain themselves. The absolute title holder/co owners cannot be ousted from his property according to
the provisions of the Civil Procedure Code.
the provisions of the Civil Procedure Code.
(Global Perspectives)
The feminazis out here are trying desperately to defend the daughter as their theory of moral superiority of the estrogen hormone is at stake here. Their argument is that the father was bad and the daughter was forced to do it. How do they know? They have no answer to what justification is there for a daughter to kick out her own father out of his own house!
(Local Perspectives)
Here is the original, that I bothered to track down but you were to lazy to do. Preferring instead to stand a a safe distance and hurl feces at me just because I happen to be a woman, like you always do.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Thrown-out-at-72-by-his-daughter/articleshow/4650825.cms
Never mind that the son was equally responsible and in an even better position financially to care for the father. Of course it was the feminazis who were somehow responsible. You have a 1 track mind, and it is tiresome, not to mention that is also the main trait of autism, its creepy.
Headlines:
Dead Dog found in the freezer:
Rohan = feminazis did it.
The Price of corn skyrockets:
Rohan = the feminazis are responsible
Ford Recalls 12,000 SUVs:
Rohan = feminazi drivers destroying Ford
8 People die in Late Night Disco Fire:
Rohan = If those feminazis had been at home where they belong, none of this would have happened.
Flood, Plague, Petulance and Boils:
Rohan = Woman are the root of all evil.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Thrown-out-at-72-by-his-daughter/articleshow/4650825.cms
Never mind that the son was equally responsible and in an even better position financially to care for the father. Of course it was the feminazis who were somehow responsible. You have a 1 track mind, and it is tiresome, not to mention that is also the main trait of autism, its creepy.
Headlines:
Dead Dog found in the freezer:
Rohan = feminazis did it.
The Price of corn skyrockets:
Rohan = the feminazis are responsible
Ford Recalls 12,000 SUVs:
Rohan = feminazi drivers destroying Ford
8 People die in Late Night Disco Fire:
Rohan = If those feminazis had been at home where they belong, none of this would have happened.
Flood, Plague, Petulance and Boils:
Rohan = Woman are the root of all evil.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
You feminists are now criminals as you support women criminals to meet your selfish and criminal intentions. The old man was employed in a travel firm and didn’t need to be looked after. And the house is owned by the old man as stated by the husband of the second daughter who don’t mind looking after him. SO YOU FEMINIAZIS HAVE STARTED SUPPORTING CRIMINAL WOMEN WHO THROW OUT THEIR FATHERS OUT OF THEIR OWN HOUSE! THIS IS GETTING REALLY NASTY! YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE TALIBANS.
You feminists are now criminals as you support women criminals to meet your selfish and criminal intentions. The old man was employed in a travel firm and didn’t need to be looked after. And the house is owned by the old man as stated by the husband of the second daughter who don’t mind looking after him. SO YOU FEMINIAZIS HAVE STARTED SUPPORTING CRIMINAL WOMEN WHO THROW OUT THEIR FATHERS OUT OF THEIR OWN HOUSE! THIS IS GETTING REALLY NASTY! YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE TALIBANS.
(Local Perspectives)
Just before this debate again turns into a male-female equality,I would just like to say one thing .
Why it happens that in majority of such cases it is the children who ill treat their elderly parents, you never read about any parent giving up on their kids.They are there to take care of their children like Mr. Merchant did when he took in Harsha when her husband left her. I agree that perhaps the old father may not be an ideal person to live with but when nearly all parents adjust with their not at all ideal offsprings it is the least any child can do for his parent. To support him in his time of need.
Why it happens that in majority of such cases it is the children who ill treat their elderly parents, you never read about any parent giving up on their kids.They are there to take care of their children like Mr. Merchant did when he took in Harsha when her husband left her. I agree that perhaps the old father may not be an ideal person to live with but when nearly all parents adjust with their not at all ideal offsprings it is the least any child can do for his parent. To support him in his time of need.
(Local Perspectives)
I agree with you. You have also missed something vital. The daughter has thrown out the father out of his own house. This is illegal apart from being inhuman. Whether he is bad or not is immaterial. Nobody can thrown out another person from their own houses. Period.
(Local Perspectives)
What they never report of child abuse in India? Children do grow up and then the roles are reversed. I am not saying that this is such a case. I am just saying that when you don’t know the whole story, you have to wonder what would cause a person to stop loving their parent.
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya: As usual you have a lot of shit to vomit and a retarded mind to which nothing goes in.
”Merchant’s second daughter Warsha’s husband, H Pandey, said the property deed clearly gave Merchant a right to stay in the flat.”
When women do whatever dirty things why are you supporting it? I saw you shitting when a girl killed her own mother. Every criminal has a reason for his/her crime; But what matter is Human rights and Civil rights which takes precedence over women’s/criminal’s rights. She has done a breach of civil procedures and should be punished.
”Merchant’s second daughter Warsha’s husband, H Pandey, said the property deed clearly gave Merchant a right to stay in the flat.”
When women do whatever dirty things why are you supporting it? I saw you shitting when a girl killed her own mother. Every criminal has a reason for his/her crime; But what matter is Human rights and Civil rights which takes precedence over women’s/criminal’s rights. She has done a breach of civil procedures and should be punished.
(Global Perspectives)
Rohan,
””I took care of him for so long, but I am single-handedly bringing up two children and can’t afford to look after him.”
How much is a woman supposed take before she breaks? How was she supposed to do it all alone? Her brother and sister are equally libel, why didn’t they help her in those 6 years? Why do you only blame her? Oh, that’s right, you don’t care how much women suffer, it is a woman’s duty to suffer...right?
””I took care of him for so long, but I am single-handedly bringing up two children and can’t afford to look after him.”
How much is a woman supposed take before she breaks? How was she supposed to do it all alone? Her brother and sister are equally libel, why didn’t they help her in those 6 years? Why do you only blame her? Oh, that’s right, you don’t care how much women suffer, it is a woman’s duty to suffer...right?
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya,
”I am just saying that when you don’t know the whole story, you have to wonder what would cause a person to stop loving their parent.”————————————when a woman commits a crime, you want to support her and sympathise with her saying that ”we don’t know the whole story”. But when a man commits a crime against a woman, you already know the whole story and believe the allegations the woman makes. IS THIS FAIR? AND LOOK AT THE DOUBLE STANDARDS YOU HAVE.
”I am just saying that when you don’t know the whole story, you have to wonder what would cause a person to stop loving their parent.”————————————when a woman commits a crime, you want to support her and sympathise with her saying that ”we don’t know the whole story”. But when a man commits a crime against a woman, you already know the whole story and believe the allegations the woman makes. IS THIS FAIR? AND LOOK AT THE DOUBLE STANDARDS YOU HAVE.
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
”How much is a woman supposed take before she breaks? How was she supposed to do it all alone? Her brother and sister are equally libel, why didn’t they help her in those 6 years? Why do you only blame her? Oh, that’s right, you don’t care how much women suffer, it is a woman’s duty to suffer...right?”———————————–
The old man was working in a travel agency and needed nobody to take care of except emotionally. You have believed the daughter’s words without ever looking at what the second daughter’s husband has stated. They have said that the house belongs to the old man and they are ready to look after him. The old man has said that he just needs a shelter above his head and nothing more. What more do you want? You want to support elder abuse! That is what you are doing. You want women to be above the law! You want to support women criminals just because they are women! Bah!! Feminazis!
”How much is a woman supposed take before she breaks? How was she supposed to do it all alone? Her brother and sister are equally libel, why didn’t they help her in those 6 years? Why do you only blame her? Oh, that’s right, you don’t care how much women suffer, it is a woman’s duty to suffer...right?”———————————–
The old man was working in a travel agency and needed nobody to take care of except emotionally. You have believed the daughter’s words without ever looking at what the second daughter’s husband has stated. They have said that the house belongs to the old man and they are ready to look after him. The old man has said that he just needs a shelter above his head and nothing more. What more do you want? You want to support elder abuse! That is what you are doing. You want women to be above the law! You want to support women criminals just because they are women! Bah!! Feminazis!
(Local Perspectives)
Hi,Nuya
(Local Perspectives)
AND NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY!
”When contacted, Harsha said that her father had been making false allegations. She told TOI that the house was hers, and that he had no rights over it. ”I took care of him for so long, but I am single-handedly bringing up two children and can’t afford to look after him. He had started bringing women over and was even talking of getting married again,’’ she said. Claiming that Merchant would harass her, Harsha said her other siblings, too, had a responsibility towards him. But the family is divided over the matter. ”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Thrown-out-at-72-by-his-daughter/articleshow/4650825.cms
”When contacted, Harsha said that her father had been making false allegations. She told TOI that the house was hers, and that he had no rights over it. ”I took care of him for so long, but I am single-handedly bringing up two children and can’t afford to look after him. He had started bringing women over and was even talking of getting married again,’’ she said. Claiming that Merchant would harass her, Harsha said her other siblings, too, had a responsibility towards him. But the family is divided over the matter. ”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Thrown-out-at-72-by-his-daughter/articleshow/4650825.cms
(Global Perspectives)
If marriage is an offence for a 72 year old man, Harsha should bring her father to justice.
There is no justification for kicking out a helpless old man from his own house. This is a perfect example of women empowerment. The police should kick this women out and let this old man live in his own house peacefully for the rest of his days.
Women are doing gross injustice towards the elders in India. This has been acknowledged by World Health Organisation as well.
Elder Abuse in India - World Health Organization Report
http://prassoon.instablogs.com/entry/elder-abuse-in-india-world-health-organization-report/
There is no justification for kicking out a helpless old man from his own house. This is a perfect example of women empowerment. The police should kick this women out and let this old man live in his own house peacefully for the rest of his days.
Women are doing gross injustice towards the elders in India. This has been acknowledged by World Health Organisation as well.
Elder Abuse in India - World Health Organization Report
http://prassoon.instablogs.com/entry/elder-abuse-in-india-world-health-organization-report/
(Global Perspectives)
Nuya,
The old man is working in a travel firm and needs no financial support. The old man has clearly stated it. The husband of the second daughter has clearly stated that the house belongs to the old man. I can tell you that to own a house in Mumbai, one needs to be a millionaire. It is highly unlikely that a daughter with two kids to look after could be owning that house and an old father who has earned all his life could not be owning that house. The old man must have put in enough resources of his lifetime to own his place. The young daughter simply does not have the resources to own the house.
The old man is working in a travel firm and needs no financial support. The old man has clearly stated it. The husband of the second daughter has clearly stated that the house belongs to the old man. I can tell you that to own a house in Mumbai, one needs to be a millionaire. It is highly unlikely that a daughter with two kids to look after could be owning that house and an old father who has earned all his life could not be owning that house. The old man must have put in enough resources of his lifetime to own his place. The young daughter simply does not have the resources to own the house.
(Local Perspectives)
@Nuya,
This story that you have posted here is full of contradictions. 1. The old man is employed already and doesn’t need to be taken care of. 2. The old man himself has clearly stated it. 3. It is highly unlikely that the house belongs to the daughter who has probably earned a pittance when compared to the old man who has worked for a lifetime. Property rates in Mumbai are at the peak and young people cannot afford it. 4. The husband of the second daughter has confirmed the ownership of the property. 5. The second daughter is ready to take care of her father.
This story that you have posted here is full of contradictions. 1. The old man is employed already and doesn’t need to be taken care of. 2. The old man himself has clearly stated it. 3. It is highly unlikely that the house belongs to the daughter who has probably earned a pittance when compared to the old man who has worked for a lifetime. Property rates in Mumbai are at the peak and young people cannot afford it. 4. The husband of the second daughter has confirmed the ownership of the property. 5. The second daughter is ready to take care of her father.
(Local Perspectives)
To tell the truth... the whole story sounds fishy to me. First of all, in one place it says thrown out of his house, but then it says his room... and that she live in a flat... so what is it... like an apartment? or was it like a room in a hotel? it doesn’t sound like they are talking about a house. From the story, it did not even sound like they lived together, more like just neighbors. secondly, he is 72, how old is his daughter? Wouldn’t she be in her 40s? and those kids of hers wouldn’t they be almost full grown? Also, if he is working, going out, and dating he is not an invalid... so what kind of ”taking care of” are we talking about here? The other kids did not get involved until after the fact and even then, they did nothing but talk. If it was his property, he could get a copy of the deed...get a locksmith to open the door and go home... right? There is a lot more to this story than meets the eye.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
The problem is that you don’t suspect the authenticity of a story when a man is involved in a crime. But the minute a woman is involved, you start talking about the gaps in the story. I must tell you that in Mumbai, people either live in apartments, or rooms, or in shanties. The minority of people live in houses and they are the rich people. So, it is obviously not a house. But Indian media are never give importance to such accurate reporting. All I can see is that the man has been thrown out! About somebody to look after him, any old person needs care and attention. Its not just in terms of money. And, breaking a lock and getting in is not easy. The place where he was staying is being let out to another person now and he obviously has no strength to get it unlocked. Indian police are not as civilized as to look at the property papers and decide the matter. They ask for bribes from both sides and the one who gives more gets his way through.
The problem is that you don’t suspect the authenticity of a story when a man is involved in a crime. But the minute a woman is involved, you start talking about the gaps in the story. I must tell you that in Mumbai, people either live in apartments, or rooms, or in shanties. The minority of people live in houses and they are the rich people. So, it is obviously not a house. But Indian media are never give importance to such accurate reporting. All I can see is that the man has been thrown out! About somebody to look after him, any old person needs care and attention. Its not just in terms of money. And, breaking a lock and getting in is not easy. The place where he was staying is being let out to another person now and he obviously has no strength to get it unlocked. Indian police are not as civilized as to look at the property papers and decide the matter. They ask for bribes from both sides and the one who gives more gets his way through.
(Local Perspectives)
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